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02:36:18  <defunctzombie>Raynos: apparently the repo got transfered
02:36:35  <defunctzombie>you are still a collaborator
02:36:36  <Raynos>defunctzombie: nice!
02:36:49  <Raynos>about time :)
02:38:14  <defunctzombie>haha
02:41:14  <defunctzombie>brianloveswords: substack: too bad just zlib was taken in npm, otherwise you could make zlib module with browser: field and it would all be awesome. Never really understood why zlib ended up in core
02:41:57  <substack>windows probably
02:42:39  <CoverSlide>yeah
02:42:49  <CoverSlide>for npm tar
02:43:13  <CoverSlide>but apparently it's already linked in openssh
02:43:26  <CoverSlide>so it's kind of a why not type thing
02:43:50  <defunctzombie>psh.. lame
02:44:06  <defunctzombie>npm usage didn't mean it needed to be in core
02:44:48  <CoverSlide>meh
02:45:15  <CoverSlide>besides, i don't think zlib should be its own module. one for inflate, one for deflate
02:45:21  <CoverSlide>but that's just me
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03:34:40  <defunctzombie>Raynos: https://github.com/shtylman/npm-css/issues/2
03:34:41  <defunctzombie>hahaha
03:44:48  <Raynos>defunctzombie: :D
03:45:11  <Raynos>defunctzombie, substack: npm needs zlib so it's in core :P
03:46:50  <defunctzombie>Raynos: we need more widgets!! and I need to make a nice writeup on how to use this all
03:47:03  <defunctzombie>and why you don't need ender/component/bower/whatever
03:47:40  <mbalho>requenderbomponentower
03:48:54  <defunctzombie>o.o
03:49:01  <mbalho>i have a gift for naming things, i know
03:51:43  <Raynos>defunctzombie: yes
03:51:55  <Raynos>i have some widgets
03:52:01  <Raynos>but im not sure whether I want to use npm-css
03:52:10  <Raynos>or whether I want to inject Style(...)
03:52:47  <Raynos>npm-css is cool BUT
03:52:51  <Raynos>I use LESS at work
03:55:04  <defunctzombie>make a less plugin haha
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03:55:10  <defunctzombie>I thought about the various systems
03:55:21  <defunctzombie>Raynos: also, you can just use npm-css for a single file
03:55:25  <defunctzombie>that is why I am doing
03:55:33  <defunctzombie>serving just widgets.css through npmcss
03:55:37  <defunctzombie>to bring in what I want
03:55:42  <defunctzombie>everything else is stylus for me
03:55:44  <Raynos>but then you cant do less preprocessing
03:55:48  <Raynos>Oh interesting
03:55:56  <defunctzombie>yes you can ;)
03:56:13  <defunctzombie>for me I just do app.use('/css/widgets.css', makeup(__dirname + '/publics/css/widgets.css'));
03:56:16  <Raynos>but then I cant use npm-css
03:56:22  <Raynos>for internal usage :p
03:56:28  <Raynos>and local stuff
03:56:36  <defunctzombie>just put it in the widgets.css file
03:56:40  <defunctzombie>or extend less
03:56:45  <defunctzombie>which I think should be possible?
03:56:50  <Raynos>yeah
03:57:09  <defunctzombie>I opened an issue on stylus asking how to extend @import
03:57:19  <defunctzombie>if that is possible I will write a stylus plugin probably
03:58:21  <mbalho>Raynos: is there a 'ready' event for idb-wrapper?
03:58:34  <mbalho>OH onStoreReady
03:58:35  <Raynos>what's idb-wrapper?
03:58:40  <Raynos>Oh I see
03:58:48  <mbalho>Raynos: you are a maintainer
03:58:52  <mbalho>Raynos: https://npmjs.org/package/idb-wrapper
03:59:10  <Raynos>:D
03:59:10  <Raynos>I know
03:59:14  <Raynos>but I stopped touching it
03:59:16  <Raynos>once levelidb worked
03:59:25  <mbalho>Raynos: so you shouldnt be a maintainer anymore haha
03:59:38  <Raynos>oh ill fix bugs :p
03:59:54  <mbalho>hah
04:04:20  <Raynos>if it breaks levelidb ill fix idb-wrapper
04:05:04  <Raynos>defunctzombie: IDEA
04:05:09  <Raynos>what if npm-css just inlined the LESS
04:05:12  <Raynos>Oh then namespacing breaks
04:05:13  <Raynos>blargh
04:05:37  <Raynos>what if you can pass a function to npm-css
04:05:44  <Raynos>that will be called before the thing
04:06:02  <Raynos>blargh that won't do either
04:07:44  <defunctzombie>I wouldn't want to make npmcss be a magic bullet
04:08:13  <defunctzombie>if we had npm-css(src, basepath)
04:08:15  <Raynos>well if there was a simple hook that would allow integration with most css preprocessors
04:08:19  <Raynos>then it would be cool
04:08:32  <defunctzombie>then maybe some things could work, but I think it comes down to better integration with css preprocessors
04:08:37  <defunctzombie>yes, I agree it would be cool
04:08:51  <defunctzombie>but also depends how you are using the css preprocessor tho
04:14:02  <defunctzombie>I am open to suggestions on making it work with preprocessors
04:14:10  <defunctzombie>but I think that it isn't an easy thing
04:14:19  <defunctzombie>for your local widget use case, I still think one file would do
04:14:41  <defunctzombie>or do you @import in less and serve many css files at different times?
04:15:06  <defunctzombie>I know for me, I would just have that one file cached and fingerprinted so it becomes less of an issue
04:15:18  <defunctzombie>generally serve most of my css upfront anyhow
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04:30:41  <defunctzombie>Raynos: https://github.com/cloudhead/less.js/blob/master/lib/less/index.js#L102
04:30:47  <defunctzombie>what happens if you monkey patch that?
04:31:17  <defunctzombie>also.. wow that code is pretty bad
04:31:55  <defunctzombie>but I think you should be able to monkey patch that function and get the behavior you want
04:36:45  <chrisdickinson>brianloveswords: unfortunately not the node api, but https://github.com/kripken/zee.js
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04:58:50  <Raynos>defunctzombie: O_O
04:59:06  <defunctzombie>Raynos: https://gist.github.com/4592178
04:59:15  <defunctzombie>there is a monkey patch to do @import "module"
04:59:32  <defunctzombie>more or less
04:59:41  <Raynos>is that sync or async
04:59:48  <defunctzombie>sync
04:59:55  <defunctzombie>uses resolve and npmcss
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05:02:55  <defunctzombie>Raynos: I am slightly tempted to change npm-css to just use @import
05:03:11  <Raynos>:(
05:03:12  <Raynos>why
05:03:21  <defunctzombie>*slightly tempted*
05:04:02  <defunctzombie>mostly cause in order to use the css file you are gonna need to preprocess it anyway :/
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05:05:05  <defunctzombie>I am sure I can come up with pros and cons for both.. but for now I am not changing it obviously
05:27:37  <Raynos>Oh wait
05:27:41  <Raynos>@import without comments?
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05:57:37  <defunctzombie>Raynos: yea
05:57:48  <defunctzombie>but then it becomes
05:57:53  <defunctzombie>"invalid" css
05:57:56  <defunctzombie>so I dunno
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06:33:57  <substack>big fix to testling landing soon
06:34:14  <substack>should fix tests that get half-way through the browser list
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15:36:32  <defunctzombie>\o/
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15:45:00  <jan____>Is there a way to programatically do the equivalent of `npm config set a b`?
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16:20:44  <defunctzombie>Raynos: do you think using @import without comments would be bad?
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17:22:07  <tanepiper>just played with Voxel.js drone
17:22:08  <tanepiper>OMG
17:22:09  <tanepiper>awesome
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18:31:35  <substack>brianloveswords: yay https://twitter.com/mozgames/status/293768595337515010
19:09:10  <substack>tanepiper: there's #voxel.js now
19:09:24  <substack>gozala: I figured out the issue with your tests :D
19:09:30  <substack>amazing that any tests work at all actually
19:10:08  <substack>your tests are all passing on my local build
19:11:34  <gozala>substack: ok, not sure I understand what's issues though
19:11:44  <gozala>Am I doing something terribly wrong ?
19:11:51  <substack>no it's on our end
19:12:10  <substack>the tap parser I wrote to detect when tests are finished is completely broken
19:12:51  <fotoverite>D:
19:12:57  <gozala>I actually use tape :D
19:13:11  <gozala>so it's strange no one else has run into that yet
19:13:31  <CoverSlide>i think i have
19:13:46  <CoverSlide>is it cause tape exits with 1 instead of 0?
19:14:38  <gozala>no in my case testling ends running tests at random points
19:14:41  <substack>nothing to do with that
19:14:45  <CoverSlide>oh
19:14:49  <substack>it's the parser that I wrote inside of testling
19:14:55  <substack>to know when the test output is finished
19:15:00  <CoverSlide>oic
19:15:04  <substack>I'm spinning it out into a separate module right now
19:16:53  <gozala>substack: in fact I really wish http://nodejs.org/api/process.html#process_event_exit in browserify
19:17:33  <gozala>but yeah I don't think there's a way
19:29:03  <Raynos>defunctzombie: depends on whether I want to use @import
19:29:33  <Raynos>gozala: process.on("exit") doesn't help because browsers only exit when you call global.close()
19:29:52  <pkrumins>browserling now has IE10s
19:45:00  <mbalho>rolnaaba_: /join #voxel.js
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20:20:06  <jjjjohnnny>brianloveswords: whats yr github?
20:20:20  <mbalho>https://github.com/brianloveswords
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21:08:13  <brianloveswords>jjjjohnnny: brianloveswords
21:08:25  <brianloveswords>Ah, max got it
21:08:42  <CoverSlide>Is your last name LoveSwords, or do you just love words?
21:08:50  <CoverSlide>i always wondered that
21:09:20  <CoverSlide>Loveswords is an awesome last name btw
21:10:11  <CoverSlide>I SHALL PIERCE HER WITH MY LOVESWORD
21:10:11  <LOUDBOT>THEN IT'S WRITTEN IN C WITH FLOATS OKAY BUT YOU'RE USING JAVA JESUS CHRIST
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21:15:13  <brianloveswords>CoverSlide hahaha
21:15:32  <brianloveswords>It's Brian loves words, but I respond just as well to loveswords.
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21:50:15  <pkrumins>IE10 announcement: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/browserling-now-has-ie10/
21:51:36  <substack>1 hour of this battery left at just 29% charge :D
21:51:45  <substack>this is the smaller of the 2
21:52:02  <pkrumins>woot
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