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07:24:26  <Raynos>owen1: https://github.com/Raynos/process-dashboard
07:24:35  <Raynos>I have another clean example of a node app again
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08:13:22  <substack>http://browserling.com:9005/ <-- testling redesign
08:16:02  <jesusabdullah>substack: nice
08:16:08  <jesusabdullah>substack: any particular reason for a new design?
08:16:29  <substack>the old one was really horrible
08:16:41  <substack>and I need to update the design for the paid profesh plans
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08:17:19  <jesusabdullah>ahh
08:17:22  <jesusabdullah>good deal
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08:21:03  <substack>ahoy!
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09:27:06  <substack>dominictarr: check it out! http://browserling.com:9005/
09:27:44  <dominictarr>nice
09:28:12  <dominictarr>so designy
09:29:45  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: what're you doing for money these days ooc?
09:29:45  <substack>exactly the look I was going for
09:29:52  <dominictarr>this is pretty funny http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239658/Computer_scientists_oppose_Oracle_39_s_bid_to_copyright_Java_APIs
09:29:54  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: (I'm thinking about what I want to do for money these days)
09:30:02  <dominictarr>when will oracle learn some manners?
09:30:33  <dominictarr>jesusabdullah: nearform pays me to work on open source mostly
09:30:42  <jesusabdullah>what's nearform?
09:31:05  <dominictarr>it's an irish nodecompany
09:31:08  <jesusabdullah>ahh
09:31:10  <dominictarr>node company
09:31:11  <jesusabdullah>well that's cool
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09:35:23  <substack>dominictarr: how much longer until I can just require('tacodb')?
09:38:18  <substack>also really curious about what the api will look like
09:41:30  <dominictarr>I'm gonna try and get it pushed today
09:43:27  <substack>:D !!!
09:44:01  <jesusabdullah>word I wouldn't mind playin' with that
09:44:04  <substack>this is actually really good timing, since I have some persistent things I want to experiment with using leveldb for in production
09:44:34  <jesusabdullah>I haven't played with leveldb at all
09:44:42  <jesusabdullah>might be nice to do something not involving couch
09:44:43  <substack>I also want to try it out for the hyperspace example
09:44:46  <jesusabdullah>as much as I like couch XD
09:45:27  <substack>yeah it seems like dominictarr has pretty much been building a nicer version of couch in node on top of leveldb with a sweet api and much more useful replication
09:45:50  <substack>if it's awesome I will be plugging the shit out of it in all my talks
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11:39:06  <dominictarr>substack: so, it occured to me during breakfast, that if we did use compute as a currency, we'd be in a continual state of hyperinflation
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11:48:09  <dominictarr>energy production only increases linearly though, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption
11:51:45  <substack>chips would just get more energy efficient
11:51:58  <substack>like brains, which are hugely energy efficient
11:54:08  <dominictarr>oh, it turns out
11:54:19  <dominictarr>that solar is improving exponentially
11:54:31  <dominictarr>since it also benefits from miniturization
11:54:35  <dominictarr>http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/03/16/smaller-cheaper-faster-does-moores-law-apply-to-solar-cells/
11:54:45  <jez0990>dominictarr: you've never watched a Kurzweil lecture?
11:55:07  <dominictarr>so it's probably only a matter of time before solar eclipses all the other forms of power generation
11:55:19  <jez0990>yup
11:55:23  <dominictarr>jez0990: I get the gist of it
11:55:37  <dominictarr>i was just thinking this morning about how strange money is
11:56:11  <dominictarr>it never has an exact value, because of inflation, exchange rates, governments etc
11:56:24  <dominictarr>but instead, if you measure wealth in real units
11:56:48  <dominictarr>watts, jules, flops, mbps
11:57:07  <dominictarr>then we are constantly getting amazingly richer
11:57:59  <jez0990>the problem is that "we" and "currency" are opposing concepts
11:58:12  <dominictarr>yeah, that is strange
11:58:28  <jez0990>the more we think in terms of currency and quantifying everything, the crappier everything is going to get
11:58:53  <dominictarr>because it's like, you have the science fiction thing, with the futuristic utopia that has over abundance of everything
11:59:07  <dominictarr>but from what I can tell, we are already there
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11:59:43  <dominictarr>"money" seems to be more about allocating human labor
11:59:51  <dominictarr>it's both a carrot and a stick.
12:00:04  <dominictarr>I can give you money, and get you to do something
12:00:34  <dominictarr>or I can demand money from you (else I'll turf you out of my property, and you'll be living on the street)
12:01:20  <jez0990>it is a solution to an old and no longer relevant problem
12:01:43  <dominictarr>though, given performance of synthetics used in sleeping bags and tents, that could potentially be quite comfertable
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12:02:10  <substack>sleeping bags and tents covered in solar cells
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12:02:15  <jez0990>floating in the ocean
12:04:19  <dominictarr>if it wasn't you the fact that you would now be regarded as a scumbag
12:06:24  <dominictarr>money seems to be rather like that card game, which is normally know as "president" or "asshole"
12:06:33  <dominictarr>jez0990: do you know that game?
12:07:26  <jez0990>dominictarr: ha, yes
12:08:10  <jez0990>given the abundance in western societies, money really does feel like game money to me these days
12:08:36  <dominictarr>especially if you have a job in computers
12:08:49  <dominictarr>if you are making coffee it's different
12:09:20  <jez0990>sure, but everyone's way too materialistic in general
12:09:42  <dominictarr>agree
12:09:45  <jez0990>or maybe just worried about retirement etc
12:10:03  <substack>"retirement"
12:10:05  <substack>don't they realize
12:10:10  <substack>they can just "retire" right now
12:10:22  <substack>you can always work when you're old
12:10:24  <dominictarr>yeah, you should retire in your twenties
12:10:49  <dominictarr>and spend your time persuing interesting hobbies
12:11:01  <dominictarr>like (mad) science
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12:11:36  <substack>retirement belies an unfortunate dependence upon and trust in institutions
12:12:19  <dominictarr>given the powerful way that technology and knowledge increases our true wealth, it would be incredible good if more people did this
12:12:23  <substack>beyond the immediate concerns of health and safety
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12:13:11  <substack>yes! you can do so many excellent things for a very small amount of money
12:13:30  <substack>chromebooks cost ~$250 USD? one of those is pretty adequate for computing
12:13:51  <substack>and you can use it to learn everything worth knowing
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12:14:10  <jez0990>you just need to be able to afford the time to learn how to use it properly, in the first instance
12:14:14  <substack>and then there are public libraries for the less digitized realms of human knowledge
12:14:34  <substack>"properly" is the key here
12:15:13  <substack>but the time savings you get from not having other possessions that waste time and money, like cars and TVs is tremendous
12:15:18  <dominictarr>yes, and if we could graph the amount of resources available, I'm pretty confidant that would be exponential too
12:15:25  <substack>cognitive surplus woo
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12:17:06  <jez0990>so we already know the solution to all these problems ...what's holding us back?
12:17:11  <jez0990>we're not famous enough?
12:17:13  <dominictarr>thing is, it's a big jump to doing this, psychologically
12:17:40  <dominictarr>I mean, to retiring the rat race
12:17:59  <dominictarr>or semi-retiring or whatever
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12:19:17  <dominictarr>because you have to reject what you have been brought up to believe
12:22:04  <substack>I don't think I was even brought up to believe that getting a job was anything more than a means to some other ends.
12:22:25  <substack>not that anybody was making it a point to stress the point or anything
12:22:44  <dominictarr>yeah, it's not anything specific
12:22:57  <dominictarr>it's just what 'polite society' does
12:28:05  <dominictarr>to put this another way
12:28:20  <dominictarr>why doesn't every body realize this as obvious?
12:28:51  <dominictarr>instead, you have to be a free thinking individualist
12:28:53  <dominictarr>why is that?
12:29:29  <substack>network effects?
12:30:35  <substack>people are also not in the habit of critically examining beliefs that are held by their peers
12:32:19  <dominictarr>hmm, yes
12:32:22  <substack>it's also the tragedy of what humanity has done with its surplus
12:32:57  <substack>with increased productivity, instead of lowering working hours, we keep them the same
12:33:13  <substack>because individually for each employer it's the most economically rational action
12:33:20  <substack>even though in the aggregate it's what nobody wants
12:33:24  <substack>see also http://www.zpub.com/notes/idle.html
12:33:39  <dominictarr>although, I know several people how have moved out of their house (stopped paying rent) into boats, etc, and cited me as an inspiration
12:34:00  <dominictarr>yeah
12:36:28  <jez0990>following the widespread collapse of religion people don't even have faith in themselves anymore, to make their own decisions about morality
12:37:18  <jez0990>I hate to sound all new-age, but the people really do need something to believe in
12:38:09  <jez0990>otherwise we'll all just be slave to ecomonics for the indefinite future
12:38:24  <dominictarr>so, the trick here
12:38:45  <dominictarr>is to become homeless and unemployed, but retain your dignity
12:39:07  <jez0990>by becoming a billionaire just beforehand
12:39:12  <jez0990>and giving it all up
12:39:59  <dominictarr>that would be rather difficult
12:40:19  <dominictarr>but most of respectability is about being reliable
12:40:24  <dominictarr>and contactable
12:40:43  <dominictarr>once upon a time, you pretty much needed an address for that
12:40:47  <substack>respectability is just about knowing "the rules" of polite society
12:40:53  <substack>and only breaking them when you have a good reason
12:40:55  <dominictarr>but now, you only need an email address, and a phone
12:42:06  <substack>we need another dot com bust to hasten this process
12:42:09  <dominictarr>so, like, it's mostly just being honest
12:42:32  <dominictarr>substack: and better solar panels
12:42:44  <dominictarr>need low power computing option.
12:42:57  <dominictarr>I only really need a house because it has power plugs
12:43:04  <substack>sleeping bags and tents covered in solar cells
12:43:38  <substack>and/or bicycle-driven alternator and a deep cycle
12:45:31  <dominictarr>a bicycle trailer with a solar panel on top would be a good option
12:45:43  <dominictarr>because you could make it ridged and lockable
12:46:14  <dominictarr>and you could disconnect your bicycle for moving around short distances
12:46:51  <substack>agreed
12:47:19  <substack>you could also construct multiple copies and leave them in places around the world where you will be often
12:48:49  <substack>or perhaps if more people had similar systems there would be a natural surplus
12:49:20  <dominictarr>maybe make a trailer design that could be rapidly constructed from very generic parts
12:51:29  <dominictarr>or, make a trailer that could fold into check in luggage
12:53:22  <dominictarr>looks like the limit is 1.5 m, if you width + length + height
12:54:41  <mbalho_>i think the real problem is that we have to expand our hacker group to include more electrical engineers
12:54:44  <dominictarr>so a panel that folds up like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Portable-100W-12V-FOLDING-SOLAR-PANEL-KIT-ready-for-camper-caravan-boat-car/190846832995?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15685%26meid%3D8046263290108900077%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D7496%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D271214754791%26
12:54:53  <dominictarr>mbalho_: +1 yess!
12:55:03  <dominictarr>to the hacker spaces!
12:56:28  <dominictarr>although that panel is quite expensive...
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13:07:33  <dominictarr>mbalho_: so, you can get this http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Portable-Power-iPhone-BlackBerry/dp/B00439G3WS
13:07:45  <dominictarr>and there is also this http://www.voltaicsystems.com/v60.shtml
13:07:51  <dominictarr>which is twice as expensive
13:08:03  <dominictarr>but is intended to be used with solar
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13:10:14  <mbalho_>dominictarr: i have a battery pack similar to that
13:10:19  <mbalho_>dominictarr: the first one
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13:11:05  <mbalho>dominictarr: that voltaic company looks cool
13:11:33  <dominictarr>it's brushed aliminium
13:11:42  <dominictarr>for the beautiful people
13:12:18  <mbalho>lol
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13:15:03  <mbalho>dominictarr: not bad, with the laptop i have voltaic said they were able to power 30 mins / hour in direct sun
13:15:36  <dominictarr>yeah, I think I want better than that
13:15:58  <mbalho>dominictarr: well if you use a usb powered laptop then its a solved problem :D
13:16:00  <dominictarr>but the solution will probably be to go to tablet + rpi
13:16:05  <mbalho>yea exactly
13:16:27  <dominictarr>we have exterminate
13:16:46  <mbalho>dominictarr: have you thought about the kindle fire
13:16:47  <dominictarr>so run server on rpi and browser on tablet
13:17:06  <mbalho>dominictarr: it has bluetooth so you only need it and a keyboard
13:17:07  <dominictarr>what is the diff between that and an android?
13:17:09  <mbalho>dominictarr: but it doesnt run real linux
13:17:12  <mbalho>dominictarr: its android
13:17:17  <mbalho>dominictarr: rpi runs debian
13:17:27  <dominictarr>right yeah
13:17:29  <mbalho>kindle fire has a color screen though
13:17:38  <dominictarr>so, rpi gives you a 'real computer'
13:17:51  <dominictarr>and and tablet gives you a screen/webbrowser
13:19:20  <dominictarr>mbalho: I have a nexus 7, which has bluetooth
13:19:39  <mbalho>i havent tried looking into running node on android
13:19:44  <mbalho>or getting shell access
13:19:48  <mbalho>on kindle its easy
13:20:03  <dominictarr>running node on kindle?
13:21:16  <dominictarr>ah, also http://androidian.de/2012/10/27/like-to-run-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-7-now-you-can/
13:22:25  <dominictarr>but it sounds pretty rudimentary
13:22:35  <mbalho>yea
13:24:33  <dominictarr>though, apparently, you can run debian inside a chroot too http://mitchtech.net/node-js-on-android-linux/
13:25:06  <dominictarr>but it feels like, currently, the most lazy, off the shelf approach would be to use rpi for linux
13:25:14  <dominictarr>and the tablet just for the browser
13:25:30  <mbalho>browser + terminal screen
13:25:48  <mbalho>or terminal inside browser
13:28:44  <dominictarr>terminal inside browser
13:31:08  <dominictarr>this also looks good
13:31:10  <dominictarr>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyndns.sven_ola.debian_kit&hl=en
13:31:43  <mbalho>hah
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13:35:15  <dominictarr>I'm gonna try that one
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13:43:38  <dominictarr>I think to be realistic, you could have a solar luggage, and then aquire a bicycle where ever you went
13:45:50  <dominictarr>this looks like a good option http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200W-100W-80W-40W-20W-10Watt-poly-semi-flexible-solar-panel-for-yacht-boat-RV-/271115753603?pt=UK_Gadgets&var=&hash=item3f1fc21883
13:46:24  <dominictarr>with 80 watts you can probably run a regular laptop
13:52:05  <dominictarr>substack: jez0990 in regards to our previous conversation this might be interesting: http://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/sr/sr218.pdf
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13:57:18  <jez0990>dominictarr: yes, that is interesting
13:58:34  <jez0990>money is a centralised but distributed computer
13:58:45  <jez0990>in the most classic sense of the word computer
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14:01:28  <jez0990>"This paper is about two polar extremes: environments with high quality information about the past, and environments with money"
14:01:53  <jez0990>I see bitcoin as still being the latter of those
14:02:42  <jez0990>we need completely dependable distributed systems that keep high quality information about the past at every social level
14:03:09  <jez0990>bitcoin etc would just be the "glue" between those systems
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14:05:17  <dominictarr>mbalho: http://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/products/12v-20ah-lithium-ion-battery/12v-20ah-lithium-ion-battery.php
14:05:30  <dominictarr>that might be the best option for extended touring
14:06:10  <mbalho>this is one of those things that i wouldnt mind paying extra for a combination of components that have been tested to work together in the field
14:07:31  <dominictarr>this one is used on boats
14:07:51  <dominictarr>that is about as heavy duty as you can get, befor military
14:08:54  <dominictarr>the thing with the voltaic one is that the input current is low
14:09:05  <dominictarr>so, you can't charge it very fast
14:09:14  <dominictarr>might be okay with a low power computer, though
14:10:45  <dominictarr>mbalho: do you have any specs for what power you can charge your battery pack with?
14:11:38  <dominictarr>with just a tablet running linux that might be enough...
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15:45:19  <defunctzombie>Raynos: https://gist.github.com/shtylman/4339901
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17:53:03  <Raynos>defunctzombie: thanks, I had to do https://github.com/Colingo/global/commit/56032ccfb71f4c631065d044b26792147f0e0cc8#diff-6
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17:56:43  <Raynos>substack: https://github.com/substack/camelize/pulls
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18:50:50  <dominictarr>no9: https://github.com/dominictarr/pull-window
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18:51:07  <dominictarr>^ take2. this can handle any type of window
18:51:20  <dominictarr>(just need to hook it into level- now)
18:54:14  <no9>dominictarr sweet the passing of a type was a little smelly
18:54:53  <jjjjohnnny>dominictarr: i did not know there were lithium deep cycles, that's pretty neat
18:55:05  <jjjjohnnny>then you need one of these http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=182
18:55:56  <dominictarr>jjjjohnnny: what would I run off that? a washing machine?
18:56:56  <jjjjohnnny>your desert cloud server farm?
18:57:11  <jjjjohnnny>you could get a smaller one http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3134
18:57:44  <jjjjohnnny>i have a large one http://instagram.com/p/Z9HD1Pj5Wx/
18:58:09  <jjjjohnnny>i aim to run audio amps off it
18:58:49  <dominictarr>jjjjohnnny: okay so originally my plan was to cycle around charging my laptop
18:59:25  <dominictarr>but maybe if there where a bunch of cyber hobos we could meet up and have raves in the forrest, etc
18:59:41  <dominictarr>in that case, some loudness might be warranted
19:00:17  <jjjjohnnny>yes
19:01:24  <dominictarr>no9: I will implement some helpers to create the types of window functions, once we know what those are
19:02:48  <jjjjohnnny>i am psychically ready for desert raving
19:02:58  <jjjjohnnny>ripe, you might say
19:03:58  <jjjjohnnny>camombert on camelback spitting camelCases
19:04:12  <jjjjohnnny>cyber hobos merge!
19:05:41  <dominictarr>maybe, hitch all the bicycles together, and raise a sail
19:07:50  <jjjjohnnny>desert sailing feels like a fun thing
19:08:58  <dominictarr>I was considering kite sailing across australia
19:09:10  <dominictarr>or the sahara
19:09:23  <dominictarr>but then I discovered another new zealander had already done it
19:09:43  <jjjjohnnny>dominictarr: why choose those tiny deserts?
19:10:00  <jjjjohnnny>are you afraid of antarcica?
19:10:13  <dominictarr>good point!
19:12:46  <dominictarr>jjjjohnnny: maybe something like this one https://sites.google.com/site/educnature/babouche-the-arctic-catamaran
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19:21:38  <no9>dominictarr The one I am after right now is sliding . Our date is set at the 11th June BTW
19:22:44  <dominictarr>sure, but I mean there are more details that just sliding or not, like how do you decide where the edges are?
19:25:35  <jjjjohnnny>while we're far away in the desert, we might need long range antenna
19:26:07  <jjjjohnnny>im curious about this http://www.ionizedgasantennas.com/Home_Page.php
19:26:49  <no9>edges?#
19:27:38  <no9>Are you thinking about the firstload problem from earlier?
19:27:45  <jjjjohnnny>substack: re: plasma antennas http://www.amazon.com/Plasma-Antennas-Theodore-Anderson/dp/160807143X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313592208&sr=1-1
19:30:15  <jjjjohnnny>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu97bwm-OGU
19:32:20  <dominictarr>no9: I mean, where does each sliding window start: is on every item
19:32:50  <dominictarr>or do you have a new one every time period
19:32:57  <dominictarr>and so on
19:34:41  <dominictarr>jjjjohnnny: this could make satellite communications much cheaper, potentially
19:35:10  <jjjjohnnny>i wonder if it is possible to bounce a signal off the erarths ionosphere
19:35:20  <dominictarr>yes, but only at night
19:35:30  <dominictarr>shortwave does that all the time
19:35:34  <jjjjohnnny>a microwave signal?
19:35:45  <dominictarr>oh, maybe not microwave
19:36:30  <dominictarr>also, wifi, etc, can steer a beam by using phasing
19:36:36  <no9>Its used for a moving averages etc its First In First Out so you don't really care about time
19:38:33  <dominictarr>can you give me an example
19:38:36  <jjjjohnnny>if you can find a general static noise, could you then make subtle modifications to it and therein encode a signal?
19:39:42  <dominictarr>jjjjohnnny: that is pretty much what radio is
19:39:48  <dominictarr>see: signal to noise ratio
19:40:41  <no9>dominictarr https://gist.github.com/No9/8090b443f89d29b999bc
19:40:52  <jjjjohnnny>i think we are missing something in long range wireless comm
19:41:12  <jjjjohnnny>maybe i am just missing everything
19:42:46  <jjjjohnnny>possibly we need giant antennas
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19:44:40  <dominictarr>no9: right. that is easy
19:46:17  <jjjjohnnny>HOW TO TRAVERSE A CHAOS
19:46:17  <LOUDBOT>HIGH COUPLING AND LOW COHESION MAKES BARRY SOMETHING SOMETHING
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19:59:50  <substack>yay
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20:05:48  <mbalho>substack: you should merge this :D https://github.com/substack/insert-module-globals/pull/5
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20:07:30  <substack>mbalho: I don't understand it, it's some grunt thing?
20:08:12  <mbalho>substack: oh maybe i was confused, i thought it would fix https://github.com/substack/insert-module-globals/issues/10
20:08:46  <mbalho>substack: basically i need to be able to set https://github.com/substack/insert-module-globals/blob/master/index.js#L76 instead of having it be hardcoded since window doesnt exist in web workers
20:09:25  <substack>people send me the dopiest pull requests with their own exotic build tools in the example and I completely gloss over them
20:10:13  <substack>mbalho: can't you do that with a transform?
20:10:21  <mbalho>substack: oh maybe
20:10:46  <mbalho>substack: can you think of any way to auto set the global or is ther eno good way?
20:11:36  <substack>b.transform(function (file) { var tr = through(); tr.pause(); tr.queue('var window=blah;'); process.nextTick(tr.resume.bind(tr)); return tr })
20:12:33  <substack>or actually with resumer you can just do var tr = resumer(); tr.queue('var window=blah;') return tr
20:12:41  <substack>http://npmjs.org/package/resumer
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20:53:31  <substack>jjjjohnnny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0DXxNeaQ0
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22:28:42  <st_luke>what to do in berlin?
22:28:55  <mbalho>st_luke: you're there now?
22:30:05  <st_luke>yeah
22:31:19  <mbalho>st_luke: go to c-base NOW
22:31:50  <mbalho>st_luke: and rent a bike
22:31:58  <st_luke>its like midnight
22:32:09  <mbalho>oh
22:32:10  <st_luke>im relocating to my apartment in east berlin tomorrow, have just been in a hotel for a day and ah alf
22:33:51  <st_luke>c base looks pretty rad
22:40:23  <jesusabdullah>sounds cool st_luke
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23:01:10  <Raynos>isaacs: npm publish is horribly slow, is there something you can do to poke npmjs and make it better ?
23:02:08  <mikolaly1enko>st_luke: the c base is pretty fun, also on thursdays I think the chaos computer club has a meet up near friederichstrasse
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23:12:54  <isaacs>Raynos: yeah, thers' been a bit of snags happening today
23:13:08  <Raynos>isaacs: its gone now
23:13:18  <isaacs>Raynos: it's not slow any more?
23:13:48  <isaacs>Raynos: if so, i suspect what you may have been seeing is that part of the time, you were getting the not-up IP from DNS, and those requests were timing out
23:14:01  <Raynos>yeah
23:14:03  <Raynos>not slow anyore
23:14:14  <isaacs>st_luke: you're not in nyc any more?
23:14:24  <isaacs>Raynos: k, then that's my theory
23:46:31  <Raynos>Is anyone good with bash? I find it hard to debug where I am doing it wrong ( https://github.com/Raynos/dotfiles/blob/master/.functions#L95 ) trying to get the uri this hub pull-request command returns into a thing
23:52:48  <st_luke>isaacs: i have to go back for july