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00:08:13  <isaacs>Raynos: i'm ok
00:08:51  <isaacs>Raynos: you should just steal my pr() function
00:09:04  <Raynos>isaacs: I did, it doesn't do what I want
00:09:11  <isaacs>oh, what do you want it to do instead?
00:10:26  <Raynos>i want a command to _create_ a pull request
00:15:33  <st_luke>since when did github support 3d printer files
00:15:34  <st_luke>https://github.com/jdneidig/Liberator/blob/master/Trigger.stl
00:15:45  <st_luke>also someone uploaded the schematics for the 3d printed gun
00:16:59  <Raynos>aha !
00:17:42  <Raynos>It was this https://github.com/Raynos/dotfiles/commit/b8157ad3af7d7f8d742e080315d87c8a0866af9c#L0R97
00:19:05  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: a few months now
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00:29:08  <Raynos>defunctzombie, substack: I want to write a tool that takes a browserify entry point and shows a list of all its deps and the size in KB of them
00:29:20  <Raynos>so that you can visually inspect why your bundle is 1MB.
00:29:30  <Raynos>For example I had a `require("console")` that added 170kb worth of JS
00:30:56  <substack>Raynos: for file in `browserify --list main.js`; do echo -n "$file "; wc -c $file; done
00:31:12  <Raynos>nice!
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00:31:54  <substack>oh actually watch already prints the file
00:32:01  <substack>so just do wc -c $file
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00:33:22  <Raynos>what is wc ?
00:33:31  <jesusabdullah>word count
00:34:13  <Raynos>substack: --list gives me an error because I dont think it respects the browser field
00:35:07  <Raynos>Oh I see what it is
00:35:26  <substack>it just patches into the module-deps output stream
00:35:34  <substack>or it should just do that
00:36:54  <Raynos>well something doesnt read the browser field correctly
00:41:01  <Raynos>substack: https://github.com/shtylman/node-browser-resolve/commit/c27a95010d9c4e25768e1def03d6f411c7b2f708
00:41:08  <Raynos>if we update browser-resolve to 1.0.0 it will work for me
00:41:11  <Raynos>I'll make some PRs
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00:42:47  <Raynos>fff
00:45:13  <Raynos>substack: https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/pull/413
00:45:21  <Raynos>this fixes --list for me by putting the 'browserify' support back
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01:09:34  <isaacs>Raynos: ahhhhh
01:09:38  <isaacs>Raynos: you want to CREATE a pull request.
01:09:45  <Raynos>isaacs: yeah, and it works!
01:09:46  <isaacs>Raynos: heh, i always just do that from the UI
01:09:50  <Raynos>next I need a script to hit the green button
01:09:55  <isaacs>Raynos: haha
01:09:58  <thl0>so github has a rate limit of 5000/hr (authorized) and there are 8000+ npm users -- see the problem?
01:10:06  <isaacs>Raynos: my pr() function is like hitting the green button + rebase
01:10:13  <isaacs>Raynos: it uses the pullup() command
01:10:17  <Raynos>my workflow contains a lot of pull request from Raynos/X -> Company/X
01:10:22  <thl0>how am I ever gonna get all the info I need for value pack :(
01:10:37  <Raynos>isaacs: I literally want to hit the green button and do it without `git push origin master`
01:11:00  <thl0>anyone have any experience with convincing github to increase these limits?
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01:17:36  <isaacs>Raynos: yeah, me too
01:17:44  <isaacs>Raynos: pull reqs from isaacs/node to joyent/node
01:17:58  <isaacs>Raynos: but i treat the pull req like sending an email
01:18:06  <isaacs>Raynos: like doing it in a gui is not so bad.
01:18:11  <Raynos>so I want `pr_github` enter PR message like entering the git commit message
01:18:15  <Raynos>and it does all the bullshit
01:18:23  <isaacs>Raynos: that is kind of nice
01:18:30  <isaacs>Raynos: how do you set the target branch?
01:18:34  <Raynos>I actually auto merge pull requests from Raynos/X -> Company/X a lot
01:18:47  <Raynos>pr_github 0.2.x does Raynos/X#0.2.x -> Company/X#0.2.x
01:18:49  <isaacs>Raynos: i only ever merge PRs using cli already
01:19:11  <isaacs>Raynos: i see, so the target is a positional arg... how does ie know "Company/"
01:19:20  <Raynos>hard coded in my script
01:19:43  <Raynos>https://github.com/Raynos/dotfiles/blob/master/.functions#L95
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01:20:58  <isaacs>i see
01:21:32  <isaacs>Raynos: it'd be hot if it used a remote name like "upstream" or check the website to see where you forked from
01:25:27  <thl0>isaacs: does ~30600 package count sound about right? - checking my data
01:25:29  <Raynos>my remote name is github
01:25:38  <Raynos>so I'm cool doing `origin:branch` -> `github:branch`
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01:52:29  <substack>Raynos: I'll copy your packageFilter into the --deps command too
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02:04:08  <Raynos>substack: so I wrote a program that takes a index.js & returns a ratio of "own files size" vs "dependency file size"
02:04:40  <Raynos>this can be turned into a badge to be displayed on github repos to show that browserify modules are either really cool and small or unnecessarily large
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09:47:59  <substack>just got robbed at gunpoint
09:48:03  <substack>for serious
09:49:23  <Nexxy>what the fuck
09:49:28  <Nexxy>substack, are you ok?
09:50:13  <substack>yes
09:50:13  <Nexxy>I mean obviously you are still alive but what the fuck
09:50:16  <substack>he just took my wallet
09:51:04  <Nexxy>have you called the fuzz?
09:51:13  <substack>doing that now
09:51:16  <substack>getting busy signals
09:51:21  <Nexxy>jesus
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10:00:58  <rvagg>yikes
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10:42:09  <dominictarr>substack: saw your tweet! you got robbed? in oakland?
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10:46:15  <st_luke>juliangruber: hey
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10:51:05  <st_luke>whoa east berlin
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10:55:29  <dominictarr>st_luke: how
10:55:40  <dominictarr>long are you gonna be in berlin for?
10:56:02  <st_luke>until the end of the month
10:56:14  <dominictarr>are you going to nodeconf?
10:57:01  <st_luke>not this time, unfortunately
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11:01:32  <dominictarr>st_luke: you have to go to this cafe here, and say hello for me https://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.533119,13.411139&ll=52.533167,13.411163&spn=0.000914,0.002642&num=1&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A
11:01:42  <dominictarr>(I can't remember what it's called)
11:01:58  <dominictarr>but it's got homemade furnature
11:02:10  <st_luke>dominictarr: I'm pretty close to there
11:02:14  <dominictarr>cut out like jigsaw puzzels
11:02:22  <st_luke>my apartment is in pretzel berg
11:02:44  <st_luke>i mean prenzlauer berg
11:03:14  <dominictarr>right around the corner!
11:03:28  <dominictarr>this guy will give you a super strong expresso
11:03:57  <dominictarr>I think he's korean
11:04:19  <dominictarr>his cafe reminds me of shops in asia,
11:04:38  <dominictarr>because he owns it, it and runs it, and just hangs out all day
11:04:49  <dominictarr>and doesn't seem to care if anyone is there or not
11:04:53  <dominictarr>or how long you stay
11:05:32  <dominictarr>also, have the bibimbop (I think)
11:05:44  <st_luke>perfect, thats the kind of place I'm looking for
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11:10:44  <st_luke>thanks for the recommendation dude, gonna go check it out
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11:15:54  <dominictarr>it's between the street with the Senefelderplatz and the orange hostel (east seven)
11:19:02  <dominictarr>I mean, Senefelderplatz the street, not the street with the...
11:29:47  <substack>dominictarr: yes, on 22nd right outside sudoroom
11:30:11  <dominictarr>did you loose anything valueable?
11:30:14  <substack>no
11:30:22  <dominictarr>aha that is good
11:30:27  <substack>just my wallet
11:30:34  <substack>cancelled some debit cards, lost $30 in cahs
11:30:36  <substack>*cash
11:30:45  <substack>my bart card maybe had $5 on it
11:32:46  <dominictarr>aha, good. not such a big deal
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13:10:27  <juliangruber>dominictarr: still running mac os?
13:10:34  <dominictarr>yeah
13:10:50  <juliangruber>i have to get a new laptop and my recent macbook + linux experiences were too bad
13:11:13  <juliangruber>mac os will work but i'd really rather have linux
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13:14:34  <dominictarr>the simple way, is dont get a mac, get a different ultrabook
13:14:53  <dominictarr>they all copy the mac formfactor anyway
13:15:13  <juliangruber>just saw that you can install ubuntu variants on chromebooks
13:15:28  <juliangruber>and i really want a laptop with building 3g or lte
13:15:35  <juliangruber>-> the cheap samsung one maybe
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13:16:53  <juliangruber>yeah, i really like how apple pushes design forward and sooner or later other designs are "good enough" too
13:17:08  <juliangruber>design=industrial design
13:18:13  <dominictarr>yeah, I wish some of the other companies would have a fresh idea though
13:18:21  <dominictarr>and not just pay me-too to apple
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13:18:38  <dominictarr>although, asus was the first one to do a net book
13:18:57  <dominictarr>the eee 700 was cool
13:19:08  <dominictarr>I wrote thousands of lines on that tiny screen
13:19:26  <dominictarr>(could see 22 lines at a time)
13:19:28  <juliangruber>oh realy?
13:19:34  <juliangruber>hm
13:19:45  <juliangruber>i wonder what impacts screen size has on the way you code
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13:20:52  <dominictarr>quite a bit I'd say, but you never notice it
13:21:02  <dominictarr>like I have a terse style, and use a small screen
13:21:22  <dominictarr>Raynos is less terse, but he has like a 15 inch screen
13:22:02  <dominictarr>my theory is that most arguments about coding style are really arguments about text editors in discuise
13:22:15  <juliangruber>true!
13:22:26  <juliangruber>if i had eclipse i'd let it generate so much code for me
13:22:33  <juliangruber>or a properly configured vim
13:22:42  <juliangruber>but i don't even use snippets
13:23:40  <juliangruber>dominictarr: i think i told you about kdb / k / q once
13:23:48  <juliangruber>those super tense programming languages?
13:23:52  <dominictarr>oh, yeah
13:24:37  <juliangruber>kdb is a nodejs like database written in k
13:24:41  <juliangruber>the source code is 4 files
13:24:47  <juliangruber>the coder doesn't like scrollbars
13:24:53  <juliangruber>so it's all lines in max. width
13:25:03  <juliangruber>and all 4 files with on a 20 inch screen
13:25:06  <juliangruber>or so
13:25:19  <juliangruber>with=fit
13:25:26  <juliangruber>without scrollbars
13:25:47  <dominictarr>but long lines?
13:25:52  <juliangruber>super long lines
13:26:04  <juliangruber>he uses all the screen estate
13:26:09  <dominictarr>some people are just crazy
13:26:13  <juliangruber>yes
13:26:27  <dominictarr>it's best to not mention their names
13:26:39  <juliangruber>the kdb guys...their interpreter fits into the L1 cache of the cpu, so they don't even seem to net JIT or other optimizations
13:26:43  <dominictarr>because they will find out you are talking about them, and it will encourage them more
13:26:57  <dominictarr>just say "this one guy"
13:27:01  <juliangruber>ok
13:27:29  <dominictarr>fitting the interpreter into cache is impressive though
13:27:44  <dominictarr>is it possible to see the source?
13:27:53  <juliangruber>nope
13:28:05  <dominictarr>pity, sounds really interesting
13:29:12  <juliangruber>there's one more thing i need to tell you about k
13:29:27  <juliangruber>when you want to talk to a socket, you use it's socket id
13:29:31  <juliangruber>1234 "hello"
13:29:42  <juliangruber>that writes "hello" to the socket with it 1234
13:29:48  <juliangruber>in a synchronous way
13:29:54  <juliangruber>if you want to do it asynchronously
13:29:58  <juliangruber>now it comes :D
13:30:03  <juliangruber>-1234 "hello"
13:30:06  <juliangruber>negate the number
13:30:32  <juliangruber>that means if the id is safed in a variable, like ".z.wh", which would be a websocket handler
13:30:42  <juliangruber>and you want to write asynchronously to it
13:30:45  <juliangruber>you say
13:30:53  <juliangruber>neg[.z.wh] "hello"
13:31:34  <juliangruber>super hacky
13:31:40  <juliangruber>but you'll never forget that
13:34:13  <dominictarr>howcome it's .z.wh and not z.wh?
13:34:52  <juliangruber>oh, it's .z.w, sorry :D
13:34:57  <juliangruber>dunno why
13:36:27  <juliangruber>.z is a namespace
13:43:11  <dominictarr>substack: the guy from oredev wants you to email him, I decided not to go after all, too many conferences for me.
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14:06:11  <mbalho>http://grumdrig.com/bytebeat/ is a good one
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17:11:35  <Raynos>dominictarr: 17 on my laptop, 23 on my desktop
17:11:58  <Raynos>dominictarr: I have also have a 65 char width marker on my page so my lines wrap at 65 where possible and 80 if needed
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18:08:39  <ins0mnia>Raynos: Do we have something like expirty-model but for scuttlebutt/events?
18:10:16  <Raynos>ins0mnia: nope
18:10:40  <ins0mnia>Raynos: hmmm sometimes it doesn't make sense to keep history for events
18:10:48  <Raynos>agreed
18:10:58  <Raynos>i dont do much mad replication science these days
18:11:05  <Raynos>I stick to subscription & HTTP REST
18:11:08  <ins0mnia>we need to talk with dominic...
18:12:47  <ins0mnia>Raynos: I have setup this p2p topology where I'm serving pretty much everything via shoe/mdm and clients connect randomally to one of the peers, but events need to be shared and as long as event history keep piling up the whole thing will fail
18:13:04  <ins0mnia>(serving to web clients)
18:13:52  <juliangruber>substack: what laptop do you use?
18:14:02  <ins0mnia>gotta poke dominic:)
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18:40:52  <juliangruber>i think there's a certain charme about using the cheapest possible machine to get the job done
18:42:53  <substack>juliangruber: I have a thinkpad x120e
18:43:07  <substack>those cheap $250 chromebooks look nice
18:47:52  <juliangruber>but I guess you'll have to tinker a lot if chromium os isn't enough
18:48:04  <juliangruber>the x120e looks good
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18:50:30  <juliangruber>substack: is it fast enough for everything you do? i've been spoiled by macbook pros so I don't really know how low i can go
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19:10:43  <substack>fast enough?
19:12:53  <juliangruber>substack: the laptop's processor
19:14:01  <substack>I find myself waiting on disk and network IO much more than the cpu
19:15:18  <juliangruber>so a ssd would be cool?
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19:22:19  <substack>juliangruber: probably that would be more important than a fast cpu
19:22:27  <substack>although my laptop just has a spinny disk
19:25:38  <juliangruber>it's so hard deciding for a new laptop
19:26:23  <juliangruber>my mind is terribly bad at this
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19:48:53  <thl0>juliangruber: definitely go for SSD
19:49:17  <thl0>especially when doing node your bottleneck is IO not the CPU
19:53:44  <thl0>it's getting very close:
19:53:49  <thl0>./store-npm-packages.js --read --owner --keys | grep substack | wc -l
19:53:49  <thl0> 257
19:54:00  <thl0>./store-npm-packages.js --read --owner --keys | grep dominictarr | wc -l
19:54:00  <thl0> 230
19:54:31  <thl0>check it out for yourself: npm i valuepack-mine-npm
19:54:45  <thl0>https://github.com/thlorenz/valuepack-mine-npm
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20:39:25  <guybrush_>thl0: nice, maybe the security-guys should make something similiar or just use it
20:39:54  <guybrush_>i mean the guys from &yet who do the security-audit-thing with nodejs
20:40:05  <thl0>guybrush_: what are they using currently?
20:40:36  <guybrush_>sorry i dont know, i just know that they are doing something regarding security-checking of as much modules as possible
20:40:52  <thl0>mine doesn't do any realtime updates though, starts from scratch everytime
20:40:54  <guybrush_>http://nodesecurity.io/
20:41:13  <thl0>i.e. I don't want to figure out deltas when I analyze the data
20:41:21  <thl0>guybrush_: yea, have seen that
20:41:25  <guybrush_>sorry maybe its offtopic, was just an idea
20:42:06  <thl0>guybrush_: no, it's cool, I'll have to expose this as an api as well and republish, so people could use this as a library
20:42:49  <guybrush_>i think the very best solution to find good modules is irc
20:43:20  <thl0>well that will hopefully change with valuepack ;)
20:43:25  <guybrush_>right!
20:43:33  <guybrush_>i will try it :D
20:43:51  <guybrush_>but im not sure about downvotes
20:43:56  <thl0>give me two mins, I'll republish so you can use as library
20:44:09  <thl0>guybrush_: it's proven useful (ala stackoverflow)
20:44:12  <guybrush_>i mean i feel bad about downvoting someone
20:44:31  <guybrush_>right, maybe it just than im a too good person :p
20:44:37  <thl0>you should feel bad to have someone else waste their time with some lib you already found to be broken
20:44:54  <guybrush_>thats right
20:45:01  <guybrush_>i usually look at issues
20:45:19  <thl0>you shouldn't have to -- too much time
20:45:25  <guybrush_>so when something is broken nowadays its pretty easy to just file an issue
20:45:34  <thl0>valuepack will take issues into account
20:45:40  <thl0>when you downvote you need to file one ;)
20:45:50  <guybrush_>ha nice :D
20:50:47  * thl0republished valuepack-mine-npm with exposed API
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22:44:05  <Raynos>substack: what is the enterprise version of seaport called?
23:05:19  <substack>?
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23:22:09  <jjjjohnnny>starship
23:22:39  <jjjjohnnny>starch shirt
23:22:48  <jjjjohnnny>starchirt
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