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00:06:26  <st_luke>have an important question
00:06:39  <st_luke>Domenic_: are you near thorston
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00:57:17  <jesusabdullah>whoa, this build tool prototype is actually more or less working
00:57:27  <jesusabdullah>that's surprising considering the refactor I just did
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01:44:52  <substack>jesusabdullah: are the numbers sequential and sorted?
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01:54:05  <jesusabdullah>substack: I didn't take that as a guarantee. If it were, I realize you can drop the 10 and pairs.push(nums.shift(), nums.pop())
01:54:36  <jesusabdullah>substack: if that's what you had in mind anyway
01:54:48  <jesusabdullah>so I got my build prototype thing working, but now I am bored
01:54:56  <jesusabdullah>I'll polish it more if/when I actually need it
01:55:01  <jesusabdullah>which for windows stuff I probably will
01:56:13  <jesusabdullah>okay switching to node 0.10, I think it's time
01:56:23  <jesusabdullah>I wanna play with domaynezz
02:19:17  <substack>I switched yesterday
02:19:35  <substack>actually a few days before that
02:19:45  <substack>because of streaming crypto
02:19:51  <substack>but I still have no idea how streams2 is supposed to even work
02:20:09  <substack>so much surface area because you're supposed to extend them with inheritance
02:20:23  <substack>and I can't find good examples
02:20:30  <substack>use through for everything
02:22:07  <substack>I haven't wrapped my head around pull-streams yet but the examples look pretty good
02:22:51  <substack>oh I know, I'll create a stream-adventure example using pull-stream
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02:35:06  <jesusabdullah>pull-streams are relatively straightforward from what I saw
02:35:13  <jesusabdullah>streams2 otoh, nooo idea
02:36:18  <Raynos>substack: https://gist.github.com/Raynos/5855478
02:36:49  <Raynos>substack: streams2 were optimized for usage in node core, not usage in node land
02:45:59  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: doesn't that strike you as kind of lame?
02:46:08  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: kind of
02:46:16  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: BUT
02:46:32  <Raynos>I've written enough production streams code with very small gradual memory leaks and frustrating edge cases
02:46:44  <Raynos>that I appreciate the verbosity for increased edge case coverage
02:50:01  <jesusabdullah>hmm
02:50:06  <jesusabdullah>I see
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02:55:37  <xyxne>jesusabdullah,
03:12:14  <jesusabdullah>xyxne.
03:13:07  <xyxne>jesusabdullah, I told you I was here
03:14:34  <jesusabdullah>and?
03:14:37  <jesusabdullah>Did I miss something?
03:14:53  <xyxne>apparently
03:14:55  <jesusabdullah>yes.
03:14:57  <jesusabdullah>yes I did.
03:14:59  <jesusabdullah>What's up?
03:15:04  <xyxne>lol nothing
03:15:07  <xyxne>other than moving
03:15:13  <jesusabdullah>oh, where to?
03:15:23  <xyxne>about 200' to the west
03:15:49  <jesusabdullah>Forgive me, I don't know your current location OR the size of a '
03:16:03  <xyxne>Portland
03:16:09  <xyxne>a foot
03:16:12  <xyxne>12 inches
03:16:17  <jesusabdullah>ah, I thought minutes
03:16:33  <jesusabdullah>fractional degrees
03:16:36  <jesusabdullah>longitude
03:16:45  <xyxne>42 clicks
03:17:04  <xyxne>a tenth of a knot
03:17:27  <jesusabdullah>mmhmm
03:17:31  <xyxne>2 hogsheads later
03:17:33  <xyxne>we're all moved
03:17:54  <xyxne>but we've got about a furlong of unpacking to do
03:20:40  <jesusabdullah>exciting
03:22:11  <xyxne>indeed
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08:49:28  <substack>finally got around to factoring this out of optimist: http://github.com/substack/minimist
08:49:35  <substack>now optimist just uses minimist as a dep
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14:45:18  <defunctzombie>substack: I kinda like how commander does opt parsing, by just letting you specify a string
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15:03:02  <mikolalysenko>is there any code to do abstract interpretation of js programs?
15:03:27  <mikolalysenko>for example, if I want to check whether a variable is written to over all code paths, can this be done?
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15:06:08  <mikolalysenko>or more basically is there a module that can convert js to ssa form?
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15:35:42  <dlmanning>anybody know of a module for creating a map between two trees?
15:39:00  <mikolalysenko>dlmanning: what kind of map? that is kind of vague
15:39:27  <dlmanning>yeah
15:39:48  <dlmanning>I want to map nodes in a tree onto elements in a subtree
15:40:23  <mikolalysenko>return { subtree : { elements: nodes } }
15:40:24  <mikolalysenko>?
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15:42:03  <mikolalysenko>there are many ways you could map elements from one tree to another
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15:42:08  <mikolalysenko>do you want to map them in order?
15:42:19  <mikolalysenko>to do that, just do a traversal of the two trees and zip the result maybe
15:43:53  <dlmanning>Yes. So I want to map from a node at a specific location to a similar location in a subtree and then test all the children of that subtree node
15:44:17  <dlmanning>And I'm realizing this problem is way too specific to expect there to be an extant module dealing with it :)
15:45:06  <dlmanning>and that my notion of "similar" is a little vague
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15:48:03  <dlmanning>mikolalysenko: are you going to be at nodeconf?
15:48:26  <mikolalysenko>nah, need to work on my prelim
15:48:40  <mikolalysenko>/thesis/grad school stuff
15:48:50  <dlmanning>silly grad students
15:49:16  <dlmanning>I feel you pain, my thesis nearly killed me
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15:53:11  <dlmanning>btw, I've got a buddy on faculty at Texas Tech who does SciPy stuff, he was super psyched to see you ndarray work in javascript
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16:04:58  <mikolalysenko>dlmanning: cool! I am currently working on a rewrite at the moment
16:05:11  <mikolalysenko>the next version is going to be faster and simpler, but some of the apis in ndarray will change
16:05:25  <mikolalysenko>(mainly removing stuff that should be a separate module)
16:06:40  <mikolalysenko>here is a preview of what it will look like when it is done: https://github.com/mikolalysenko/ndarray/tree/rewrite
16:09:09  <mikolalysenko>in the new version it uses run time code generation to generate slices without using the arguments object
16:09:38  <mikolalysenko>also it will support things like sparse arrays by allowing for various different storage types of the underlying 1d array
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16:10:07  <mikolalysenko>for example, using this to get csr/csc type matrices: https://github.com/mikolalysenko/segment-tree
16:12:22  <dlmanning>mikolalysenko: awesome!
16:12:44  <mikolalysenko>you could also make things like ndarrays of bit vectors and so on
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16:13:16  <mikolalysenko>the easy part (which was rewriting the view code) is done
16:13:17  <dlmanning>For compression algorithms and such?
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16:13:20  <mikolalysenko>yeah
16:13:33  <dlmanning>very cool
16:13:33  <mikolalysenko>you could use it it get in memory rle compressed volumes for example
16:13:37  <mikolalysenko>to do stuff like voxel.js
16:13:40  <mikolalysenko>or store sparse matrices
16:14:03  <mikolalysenko>you can also do tricky things like lazily create arrays by making the underlying store a function
16:14:27  <dlmanning>oh nice
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16:14:41  <mikolalysenko>and it should be possible to experiment with different data structures, like trees, hash tables, lists, etc.
16:15:46  <dlmanning>yeah, I'm thrilled your working on and facilitating more data structure modules in node
16:15:48  <mikolalysenko>if it works out, then I think will probably freeze the core ndarray interface
16:17:03  <dlmanning>you're
16:17:13  <dlmanning>*sigh* more coffee
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20:28:36  <dominictarr>hij1nx:yo, whats up?
20:34:25  <no9>jesusabdullah I am offline tomorrow so are we still good for Thurs?
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20:35:56  <dominictarr>jesusabdullah: what brings you to ireland?
20:38:46  <defunctzombie>substack: does bouncy let me modify the url before bouncing?
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21:02:30  <jesusabdullah>no9: yes!
21:02:37  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: I'm doing it over goog hangouts
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21:07:36  <no9>jesusabdullah TOP BANANA!
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21:28:30  <substack>defunctzombie: yes
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22:19:12  <hij1nx>dominictarr: where you at?
22:19:22  <hij1nx>substack: want: https://github.com/hij1nx/brfs/commit/12cd660d308e54be82d1c42c90f82482fa978e40
22:32:18  <substack>looks groovy
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22:39:26  <dominictarr>hij1nx: I'm at substack's house.
22:40:01  <mbalho>w00t
22:40:04  <mbalho>say hi to chickens
22:40:15  <mbalho>dominictarr: how did the meetup go
22:40:24  <dominictarr>mbalho: that is tonight!
22:40:34  <mbalho>oh sweet
22:40:54  <mbalho>dominictarr: i just received a 50k grant to work on leveldb based open data tools for the next 6 onths
22:40:58  <mbalho>months*
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22:41:12  <dominictarr>mbalho: level-fork!
22:41:18  <mbalho>dominictarr: :D
22:41:20  <mbalho>dominictarr: exactly
22:41:27  <mbalho>dominictarr: we have much to discuss at nodeconf
22:41:35  <dominictarr>mbalho: fantastic!
22:41:54  <dominictarr>when do you get into town?
22:42:04  <dominictarr>and who is your mysterious benefactor?
22:42:08  <mbalho>tomorrow
22:42:24  <mbalho>http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/06/24/knight-foundation-awards-grants-to-open-government-data/
22:42:39  <mbalho>im not mentioned in that but it describes
22:42:43  <mbalho>the foundation etc
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23:01:55  <dominictarr>mbalho: nice!
23:06:17  <jesusabdullah>substack: automagic transforms in browserify? :D
23:06:32  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: that's pretty sweet
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23:13:05  <jesusabdullah>http://clintberry.com/2013/html5-desktop-apps-with-brackets-shell/ this sounds cool
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23:16:03  <substack>hij1nx: what does your patch do?
23:16:59  <substack>it breaks the tests
23:17:13  <substack>hij1nx: are you just trying to read relative paths?
23:17:27  <substack>use __dirname
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23:57:22  <hij1nx>substack: no
23:57:38  <hij1nx>substack: __dirname is relative to where you point browserify
23:58:13  <hij1nx>substack: so if you want to go below that point to read files it doesnt work
23:58:33  <substack> __dirname + '/../x' doesn't work?
23:58:45  <hij1nx>substack: no
23:59:53  <substack>I just did that in a test.
23:59:54  <substack>it works
23:59:59  <hij1nx>for instance: if i start browserify in `~/foo/bar/index.js`, then `__dirname` inside index.js reports `/`