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01:45:33  <feross>juliangruber: what do you think of combining multilevel and cluster? multilevel in the parent process, and IPC for child-parent communication
01:45:44  <feross>a couple questions: is IPC a streaming interface?
01:46:00  <feross>could i just do levelup in the parent and skip the multilevel stuff?
01:48:11  <rvagg>you mean node's IPC?
01:48:23  <rvagg>no, it's just stupid message passing that you'll have to wrap to make it streamable
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01:53:53  <kumavis>substack im trying to set up subsequent menus by instantiating a new menu obj, but this line causes a problem. https://github.com/substack/terminal-menu/blob/master/index.js#L101
01:54:32  <feross>rvagg: yeah, node's IPC
01:54:46  <feross>is there a module for that?
01:54:55  <kumavis>rvagg did you run into this when doing workshopper ?
01:55:03  <feross>to turn it into a streaming interface
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02:00:36  <rvagg>feross: there's probably a module for it, I'm not aware of one but I'd like to see something that does this nicely
02:01:10  <feross>rvagg: hmm, k thanks
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02:30:42  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: browserify-cdn really needs some love
02:30:58  <thlorenz>I had this working for a sec and now it's broke: http://codepen.io/thlorenz/pen/ekoLw
02:31:29  <thlorenz>seems like cdn started returning html instead of javascript
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03:11:24  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: did you look at what the html is?
03:11:44  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: make issues and when I'm not running around with my hair on fire I'll have a look
03:11:53  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: unfortunately I'm but one person, I love PRs though
03:12:56  <jesusabdullah>dealing with a minor issue with one of my typically quiet repos
03:13:23  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/uafthesis/issues/3 crappiest thing
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03:16:14  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: really the biggest issue is that wzrd.in is behind master due to a few sneaky issues I haven't been able to triage due to crummy logging accessibility situation
03:16:23  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: (basically I need to get keys to the box and a good weekend)
03:16:48  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: knowing WHAT the html content is would be huge
03:18:24  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: actually looking at network tab seems like I got some js, so maybe it's codepen?
03:18:32  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: can you access this? http://codepen.io/thlorenz/pen/ekoLw
03:19:28  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: yeah
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03:19:49  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: there ARE a few cdn issues for sure, last I checked xtend and most d3-based modules worked
03:19:51  <thlorenz>so you see: 'Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token < '?
03:20:19  <thlorenz>it works sometimes, still thinking it may be codepen
03:20:48  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: if you comment out the 3rd from bottom js line (with xtend) things kinda work
03:21:00  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: both bundles seem sound just looking at them
03:21:10  <thlorenz>yes
03:21:24  <thlorenz>maybe it's how code pen interprets them, I have no clue
03:21:34  <jesusabdullah>witaminute
03:21:38  <jesusabdullah>waitaminute*
03:21:46  <jesusabdullah>http://wzrd.in.nyud.net/standalone/xtend
03:21:51  <jesusabdullah>Does this look right to you?
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03:22:18  <thlorenz>it's part of my module acutally
03:22:19  <jesusabdullah>oh you know what thlorenz try removing nyud.net
03:22:27  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: Yeah I see your module
03:22:35  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: but if I remove the nyud it works
03:22:43  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: http://wzrd.in/standalone/xtend
03:22:54  <thlorenz>yay
03:23:01  <thlorenz>without the .net it works
03:23:18  <thlorenz>this is what I wanted: http://codepen.io/thlorenz/full/ekoLw
03:23:19  <jesusabdullah>yeah this is way the fuck better
03:23:35  <thlorenz>ok, thanks I'll keep that in mind
03:24:58  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I just removed the nyud, apparently its caching can get confused?
03:25:06  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: this is awesome, now we can demo our stuff on codepen just like any other browser modules
03:25:12  <thlorenz>all thanks to browserify-cdn
03:25:13  <jesusabdullah>yup :)
03:25:18  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: also requirebin
03:25:31  <thlorenz>tried but no css support :(
03:25:31  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: I like just linking to the build and never thinking about standalones again
03:25:34  <jesusabdullah>oh, yeah
03:25:37  <jesusabdullah>tru dat
03:25:50  <thlorenz>this is super nice, gotta go get some sleep now
03:25:55  <thlorenz>thanks a lot for your help
03:26:36  <jesusabdullah>yw
03:26:37  <jesusabdullah>though
03:26:43  <jesusabdullah>you might wanna tweet about it being fixed first
03:26:51  <jesusabdullah>and tell everyone about how cool max and I are ;)
03:27:00  <jesusabdullah>"that guy Josh wears his SUNGLASSES at NIGHT"
03:27:17  <jesusabdullah>nvm you were with it
03:27:19  <jesusabdullah>lol
03:27:20  <jesusabdullah>gnight thlorenz
03:27:26  <thlorenz>gnight
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16:27:34  <paul_irish>thlorenz: hey
16:27:41  <thlorenz>hey
16:27:46  <paul_irish>thlorenz: what details can you give me on the SM issue
16:28:00  <paul_irish>a testcase would be awesome
16:28:13  <thlorenz>unfortunately not much, except that I got no separate source files in the newest canary
16:28:40  <thlorenz>and console.log line numbers pointed to the bundle instead the source mapped file
16:29:23  <thlorenz>paul_irish: gonna be quite busy til the end of last week (lxjs), but can try to provide an isolated test case then
16:29:34  <paul_irish>you speaking?
16:29:37  <thlorenz>yes
16:29:52  <paul_irish>do you know of a browserify SM'd site online?
16:30:01  <thlorenz>yep hold on
16:30:30  <thlorenz>paul_irish: http://thlorenz.github.io/browserify-markdown-editor/
16:31:04  <thlorenz>this one has lots of them - if you don't see lots of separate files in your dev tools sources tab then you know its broken ;)
16:31:54  <thlorenz>paul_irish: on the stable build and Version 30.0.1572.0 canary I see them
16:32:11  <thlorenz>so I'll upgrade for a sec just to see
16:33:31  <thlorenz>paul_irish: yep, so with Version 32.0.1652.0 canary I only see the bundle.js -- gonna downgrade again now ;)
16:37:18  <thlorenz>paul_irish: this is another one where I left the source maps in: http://thlorenz.github.io/d3-gauge/index.html - just did this last night
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16:41:11  <paul_irish>thlorenz: whats your email
16:41:27  <thlorenz>[email protected]
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16:46:21  <paul_irish>https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=299001
16:46:30  <paul_irish>you dont have a google code acct so you'll have to star yourself in
16:46:33  <paul_irish>or something
16:49:54  <thlorenz>paul_irish: I actually do have a google account as well - added a comment :)
16:50:01  <paul_irish>thx
16:50:16  <thlorenz>np, thank you for helping to elevate this problem
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17:24:12  <robertkowalski>hi
17:26:30  <robertkowalski>Domenic_ wow many cb() never called issues
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17:26:57  <Domenic_>robertkowalski: yeah i think it's the latest node triggered some bug in npm
17:27:09  <Domenic_>robertkowalski: if you look at the area of code that actually causes that error i'm pretty sure it's a huge hack
17:27:23  <Domenic_>where isaacs uses setInterval polling instead of callbacks, for no real reason that i can remember
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17:33:59  <jesusabdullah>sending emails with mutt :)
17:35:18  <AvianFlu>WHEN IT FINISHES SENDING THEM ALL IT WILL START TO CHEW ON YOUR SHOES
17:35:18  <LOUDBOT>RFCS? WHO CARES? WE'RE WEBSCALE
17:35:30  <AvianFlu>LOUDBOT: twitlast
17:35:30  <LOUDBOT>http://twitter.com/LOUDBOT/status/383283702005907456 (apeiron/##turtles)
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19:11:48  <mbalho>interesting https://github.com/FrancescAlted/blosc
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19:33:20  <mbalho>also interesting: http://exercism.io/
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20:02:14  <ednapiranha>mbalho: !
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21:04:51  <ednapiranha>HI LOUDBOT
21:04:51  <ednapiranha>dammit
21:04:52  <LOUDBOT>WARNING WARNING APEIRON MELTDOWN IMMINENT SEEK SHELTER WARNING
21:04:53  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: there are a lot of irc bots with per-channel "best-of" quotes, write something that extracts those from various bots
21:04:54  <ednapiranha>yessss
21:05:00  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: Chapter III: LOUDBOT
21:05:05  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: but the quotes i keep are the baste
21:05:26  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: and then we'd just need to make a LaTeX template to render them all as pretty computer moderned pdf
21:05:36  <jesusabdullah>you have your own potatobase?
21:05:46  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: on second reading, the stuff i took a screenshot of isn't so funny anymore.. it was funny at the time!
21:05:48  <ednapiranha>now it just seems nerdy
21:05:55  <jesusabdullah>and that's okay!
21:06:02  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: http://cl.ly/Rctm
21:06:09  <jesusabdullah>just version your editions by timestamp
21:06:24  <jesusabdullah>hah
21:06:30  <jesusabdullah>groan-worthy >_<
21:06:35  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: somehow devolved to this http://cl.ly/RdAK
21:07:16  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: oh also bash.org
21:07:27  <ednapiranha>there's one.. lol i have to show you
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21:09:14  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: lol gets me every time. http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6459
21:09:53  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: is that quotedb project opan saurce?
21:09:58  <ednapiranha>no idear
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21:12:20  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: http://chirpy.sourceforge.net/
21:12:30  <ednapiranha>nice
21:12:33  <jesusabdullah>yeah :)
21:14:05  <jesusabdullah>cgi/perl :C
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23:32:45  <feross>Mathias Bynens doesn't think front-end packages belong on npm :(
23:32:47  <feross>see https://github.com/mathiasbynens/jquery-placeholder/issues/156
23:33:02  <defunctzombie>good for him
23:33:13  <defunctzombie>too bad he is wrong
23:33:29  <feross>defunctzombie: how can we change his mind?
23:33:34  <feross>is there a good blog post?
23:33:35  <defunctzombie>you can't
23:33:41  <defunctzombie>he either gets it or he doesn't
23:33:51  <defunctzombie>what you can do is publish it yourself
23:33:59  <defunctzombie>nothing is stopping you
23:34:01  <feross>I don't like having to use two package managers
23:34:08  <feross>yeah, but it will quickly get out of date
23:34:24  <defunctzombie>why?
23:34:26  <defunctzombie>use npm
23:34:27  <feross>and bower isn't even a proper package manager, since i don't think it does del resolution
23:34:28  <defunctzombie>and publish it
23:34:37  <defunctzombie>if you find the module useful then publish it
23:34:48  <defunctzombie>better yet, make one that doesn't depend on jquery
23:34:50  <defunctzombie>;)
23:34:51  <feross>i understand that i can just publish it on npm
23:34:55  <defunctzombie>do it
23:34:57  <feross>but it will quickly get out of date
23:35:01  <defunctzombie>so what?
23:35:07  <feross>it's not ideal
23:35:09  <defunctzombie>if anyone cares they will open an issue and ask for update
23:35:11  <defunctzombie>sounds fine to me
23:35:18  <feross>it would be better if there was a way to shim his repo
23:35:18  <defunctzombie>you don't have to always be on the bleeding edge
23:35:35  <defunctzombie>just publish it
23:35:42  <feross>will probably end up doing that
23:35:42  <substack>cypherlinks
23:36:05  <defunctzombie>seriously like a non problem, if yours gets more usage cause it is on npm
23:36:07  <defunctzombie>then that is a win
23:36:17  <feross>heh, k
23:36:25  <defunctzombie>and every month or few months you can just resync to upstream if you care
23:36:32  <substack>npm is just the best thing we have right now and the thing that comes after it will be completely backwards compatible
23:36:58  <defunctzombie>those of us that use npm love it and use it for all packages client and server
23:37:04  <defunctzombie>because of how it manages deps
23:37:13  <defunctzombie>and doesn't overcomplicate the problem with 10 package managers
23:37:31  <substack>feross: there ya go https://github.com/mathiasbynens/jquery-placeholder/issues/156#issuecomment-25212564
23:37:43  <defunctzombie>hahaha
23:37:56  <defunctzombie>I find it hard to explain to people why npm with browserify is the way to go
23:38:00  <defunctzombie>you have to just try it
23:38:02  <defunctzombie>to realize why
23:38:04  <substack>I put c modules on npm
23:38:05  <substack>whatevs
23:38:17  <defunctzombie>just image doing ruby or python dev without dependencies or import
23:38:22  <defunctzombie>*imagine
23:38:51  <feross>substack: thanks
23:39:26  <defunctzombie>from the bower page: "Bower depends on Node and npm. It's installed globally using npm:"
23:39:46  <defunctzombie>if your package manager is installed via npm… then it begs the question of why we need your package manager haha
23:42:52  <substack>WHY NOT SAVE A STEP?
23:42:52  <LOUDBOT>YOU _WILL_ SUFFER THE LOUD AND BE HAPPY
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23:51:10  <pkrumins>talk to me substack
23:53:37  <defunctzombie>don't do it!
23:53:46  <defunctzombie>its a trap!
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23:59:20  <rvagg>substack: https://github.com/rvagg/workshopper/issues/12#issuecomment-25158761