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00:39:56  <mbalho>why I dont use jshint http://i.imgur.com/4QEheFU.png
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09:36:11  <hij1nx_inberlin>polymer is kind of cool, or its the least stupid if you think you need a framework.
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09:43:36  <Domenic_>polymer is slow on mobile safari :(
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09:43:57  <hij1nx_inberlin>Domenic_: oh thats too bad, conceptually its pretty neat
09:44:18  <Domenic_>hij1nx_inberlin: agreed. And hopefully they can fix it.
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09:45:06  <hij1nx_inberlin>Domenic_: is that because mobile safari has been neglected in favor of "app-all-the-things" ?
09:45:43  <Domenic_>hij1nx_inberlin: i mean, that's probably part of it. but people write fast things for mobile safari, so presumably polymer could make itself fast if it tried.
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09:49:46  <djcoin>What is so cool about polymer ? I can't see any demo on their website
09:49:58  <yellow__>Hi there! I'm just wondering how you do it on Heroku/nodejs. To cluster or not to cluster is the question.
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10:22:41  <yellow__>Hi there! I'm just wondering how you do it on Heroku/nodejs. To cluster or not to cluster is the question.
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15:28:02  <juliangruber>started working on a super fast validation library that treats string ranges well: https://github.com/juliangruber/validly
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17:11:06  <trevnorris>sup all?
17:13:52  <CrabDude>sup trevnorris
17:14:26  <trevnorris>CrabDude: not much. just finishing up the AsyncListener API.
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17:18:11  <CrabDude>ooooo
17:18:12  <CrabDude>yum
17:18:20  <CrabDude>we need that at LinkedIn =)
17:18:36  <trevnorris>here's an example usage to generate a long stack trace: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/6784855
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17:43:44  <substack>haha how am I even online
17:43:54  <substack>I'm on a bus what is this sorcery
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17:45:19  <mbalho>lol
17:48:27  <robertkowalski>:D
17:48:51  <robertkowalski>we have now some busses with wlan in hamburg
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18:26:44  <mbalho>stream question: if i wanted to write a module that peeked at the first data event from a stream in order to try and guess the filetype, and then once it either figured it out or failed to figure it out called a callback with (filetype, readableStream), which modules can help me do this?
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18:31:06  <mbalho>e.g. a stream replayer
18:33:39  <soldair>dont know of any. would be cool. what module to use use that does data/binary type detection?
18:34:00  <soldair>mbalho: do you use*
18:34:03  <mbalho>soldair: im gonna write that myself, need to detect csv, json or fall back to newline separated data
18:35:45  <soldair>mbalho: i have only used through for that sort of thing. sounds like a useful module.
18:35:50  <mikolalysenko>mbalho: maybe a stream/node version of file?
18:35:58  <mikolalysenko>would be pretty neat
18:36:12  <mikolalysenko>http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?file
18:36:20  <mbalho>mikolalysenko: yea basically
18:39:22  <mbalho>heh `file some.csv` says UTF-8 Unicode English text, with very long lines, with CRLF line terminators
18:41:38  <mikolalysenko>yeah, I've always wondered exactly how file is implemented
18:41:53  <mikolalysenko>I've never looked at the source code, partly because I am a bit scared
18:42:14  <mbalho>just found https://github.com/fengmk2/buffer-type
18:43:57  <mikolalysenko>I wonder if there is some way to make this more modular/pluggable...
18:44:20  <mikolalysenko>or else you are going end up with one gigantic super module that recognizes all possible file formats known to man, beast or machine
18:45:43  <mbalho>also https://npmjs.org/package/mime-magic + https://npmjs.org/package/mmmagic
18:46:17  <mikolalysenko>ah, I see
18:46:21  <mbalho>mikolalysenko: yea i think thats easy, you define a type detection API and when you create the through stream that checks types you give it an array of type checker streams to use, each one can be required individually
18:46:25  <mikolalysenko>so it looks like libmagic has all the interesting bits
18:46:57  <mikolalysenko>even better: http://linux.die.net/man/5/magic
18:46:58  <mbalho>i dunno if i need the native bits from libmagic for my use case
18:47:13  <mikolalysenko>looks like all the magic patterns are stored in a big flat file!
18:47:20  <mbalho>also, npm search detect is a fun search to go through
18:47:22  <mikolalysenko>so you just need that thing, and it should just work
18:47:28  <mbalho>heh
18:47:56  <mikolalysenko>try cat /etc/magic
18:47:58  <soldair>ha the magic file on my box has magic numbers for quake save file detection "Quake I save: dm6 The dark zone"
18:48:36  <mbalho>/etc/magic on mac doesnt exist :(
18:49:25  <mikolalysenko>if all libmagic does is parse and match some patterns from that magic file, it seems to me that making npm bindings shouldn't be too bad
18:50:03  <mikolalysenko>mbalho: try /usr/share/file/magic
18:51:14  <mbalho>ah yea
18:51:30  <mbalho>funny little dsl they have
18:51:51  <mikolalysenko>apparently it dates back to 1973...
18:52:02  <mikolalysenko>or it has been in that form since roughly that era
18:52:19  <mbalho>wow
18:52:23  <mikolalysenko>wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)
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19:29:05  <mbalho>ok https://github.com/maxogden/type-stream
19:36:27  <yorick>mbalho: just the first one? what if the first one is really tiny and not enough to figure it out?
19:37:03  <mbalho>i figure if that is the case then someone will open a github issue
19:37:34  <mbalho>with a pull request implementing a 'gimme n buffers' api
19:39:48  <yorick>that's more like "do one thing sorta okay until someone else needs the rest and have them do the work" instead of "do one thing well"
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19:40:58  <mbalho>yorick: its not difficult to add that, I just don't need it for my use case
19:43:53  <mbalho>yorick: i'd rather publish something simple that gets the job done and get feedback later
19:44:06  <mbalho>yorick: rather than try to bikeshed on the perfect API and solve problems i dont have
19:44:38  <mbalho>yorick: do you have a use case in mind where you would need multiple buffers?
19:45:26  <mbalho>yorick: the only feedback you've given me in recent memory is that my logo looks like a swastika and my module is 'sorta okay' and that i am trying to get other people to do work for me
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19:56:48  <yorick>mbalho: you make a good point, I haven't really been nice. Sorry for that.
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19:58:02  <yorick>mbalho: the thing I had in mind, was, with streams (especially over network), is that data comes in heavily fragmented, and your thing which is advertised to work on streams would *occasionally* work, which is one of the hardest things to debug
19:58:53  <mbalho>yorick: ah so maybe a byte size to buffer as an option
19:59:53  <yorick>I guess even fs.createReadStream can make something that only has a couple of bytes and wouldn't get a comma and your example would not work 1 in a thousand times for nonobvious reasons (or only under heavy load or something weird)
20:00:54  <mbalho>in practice most streams you receive are themselves buffered, but i see your point
20:00:55  <yorick>maybe, or maybe keep feeding things to a detect function until it's detected something?
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20:02:02  <yorick>I've had too much experience with things that worked fine when testing but crashed and burned in any vicinity to a real use-case with node.js :/
20:02:32  <mbalho>im using this optimistically anyway, so i dont really care if it fails
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20:07:29  <mbalho>rvagg: is this true: with `through` if you wait multiple ticks to pipe you'll lose data, but with `through2` you won't?
20:08:50  <yorick>it would not surprise me because through streams would unpause the source while not being auto-paused themselves
20:09:09  <yorick>while through2 would be the streams2 pull-streams
20:09:25  <mbalho>yea thats my hypothesis
20:10:24  <yorick>honestly I would have expected through2 to just replace through everywhere
20:10:41  <mbalho>i'd rather thorugh2 be a pull request to through that breaks backwards compat
20:10:56  <yorick>would it break backwards compat though?
20:11:07  <mbalho>hmm not sure
20:28:26  <mikolalysenko>well, bitcoin is taking a massive hit
20:28:43  <mikolalysenko>if it gets below $60, I might buy a few just for fun
20:28:44  <yorick>seen worse :P
20:28:51  <yorick>it's been at $125 for a couple of hours now
20:28:59  <mikolalysenko>:(
20:29:05  <mikolalysenko>hoping it goes down more
20:29:08  <yorick>mikolalysenko: it will go up again like all of the times before
20:29:14  <mikolalysenko>yeah, probably
20:29:14  <yorick>it's been to $110 today
20:30:50  <yorick>it might be thanks to silkroad or market manipulation with all the 0.01 transactions every 10 bitcents
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21:00:50  <trevnorris>hij1nx_inberlin: sup dude?
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