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03:14:07  <evbogue>dominictarr is coming to Oakland!
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03:37:59  <mikolalysenko>when?
03:38:18  <mikolalysenko>also I'm gonna be in the bay area on oct. 22
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06:35:19  <substack>owen1: I just go to the consulate in SF
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17:27:47  <substack>mbalho et all: http://dry.ly/full-streams-ahead
17:28:04  <mbalho>oooh
17:28:18  <mbalho>uses requirebin even ooooooh
17:28:37  <substack>yes!
17:29:46  <mbalho>dguttman: nice jorb
17:29:59  <egradman>yay dguttman
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17:34:51  <thlorenz>mbalho: do you think we can get css support into requirebin?
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17:35:18  <mbalho>thlorenz: sure
17:35:36  <mbalho>thlorenz: i havent figured out what the UX/UI should be for multiple files
17:35:44  <thlorenz>cause that is the only reason I put my d3-visualization on codepen - I needed CSS
17:36:43  <thlorenz>mbalho: it could just be tabs (assuming all your JS is just one file) js|css|maybe html
17:37:07  <thlorenz>html is much less important
17:37:43  <thlorenz>dguttman: funny we worked on very similar things at the same time
17:37:49  <mbalho>i was thinking JS + HTML only, both in one horizontal editor area but separated by a horizontal separator
17:37:52  <guybrush>also what do you think about supporting `require('git://github.com/me/foo.git#commitish')` in requirebin?
17:38:14  <mbalho>guybrush: needs to get added to wzrd.in first
17:38:18  <thlorenz>mbalho: yeah and include css in the html?
17:38:21  <mbalho>yep
17:38:33  <mbalho>thlorenz: the html would be the entire html source
17:38:37  <guybrush>but in general do you think this is a bad idea? if not i may look into wzrd.in
17:38:47  <mbalho>guybrush: not a bad idea
17:38:55  <thlorenz>dguttman: even the names are so similar stream-vi(s|z)
17:39:08  <mbalho>thlorenz: and then requirebin would just magically insert a bundle.js script tag at the end of the <body> when it runs
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17:39:25  <thlorenz>mbalho: makes sense
17:39:34  <thlorenz>dguttman: here is mine in case you are interested: http://thlorenz.github.io/stream-viz/
17:40:08  <thlorenz>dguttman: so I guess they are more different than the similar names would suggest
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17:50:41  <guybrush>mbalho: oh actually now that i think of it defining the dependencies in a editable package.json would make more sense
17:51:17  <guybrush>an idea: while you edit the JS-code in the editor it will update the package.json live
17:51:44  <guybrush>and you can set the dependencies yourself, this is also usefull when you want to use a specific version of a package in npm
17:52:05  <guybrush>so you would have 3 editors: 1) html 2) js 3) package.json
17:54:01  <guybrush>so in the simplest case, one just edits the js and hits the play-button, which will use default html and automatically created package.json with all dependencies set to "latest"
17:55:14  <thlorenz>guybrush: if I only edit html it needs to update immediately since it can reuse the bundle
17:55:55  <dguttman>mbalho: thanks =)
17:55:57  <guybrush>oh right i didnt think the html thing through haha
17:56:11  <dguttman>thlorenz: wow, I even thought of using a z first
17:56:21  <dguttman>but for some reason went with "s" and it was available
17:56:25  <dguttman>went with that ;)
17:56:44  <thlorenz>dguttman: :) maybe I was a bit quicker with securing that name ?
17:57:07  <dguttman>funny thing is I didn't check z after I went with s
17:57:12  <dguttman>yours is pretty rad though
17:57:13  <thlorenz>I mean I just created this very recently like about 2 weeks ago
17:58:05  <thlorenz>thanks, I like yours as well, basically visualizes the chunk rate - super easy to understand
17:58:32  <thlorenz>dguttman: mine is a bit more involved since it visualizes streams under the hood, I'll have to write a blog to explain this better
17:59:04  <thlorenz>working on stream-view as well which will allow you to visualize actual streams running on your server in order to debug bottlenecks and such
17:59:13  <dguttman>awesome
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18:05:52  <dguttman>thlorenz: yeah, you're probably right
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18:06:31  <thlorenz>dguttman: you could try to see what happens if you just switch out through with rvagg's through2
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18:08:15  <dguttman>thlorenz: breaks the write example: http://requirebin.com/?gist=6843372
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18:09:08  <thlorenz>ah, weird - the link you sent me is using through though - better to use through2 there as well
18:09:10  <dguttman>think I'd need to specify object mode
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18:09:43  <mbalho>substack: with lexicographic-integer if i do lexi.pack(123, 'hex') is there any way to convert the hex string into the byte array (e.g. output of lexi.pack(123)) so that i can use lexi.unpack(byteArray)?
18:10:09  <thlorenz>dguttman: yes do: through2({ objectMode: true}, ..)
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18:10:55  <mbalho>i wish through and through2 were just one module
18:11:13  <mbalho>that masked all the complexity of streams2 in a simple interface that only worked on node 0.10 and above
18:11:52  <thlorenz>mbalho: actually after I looked into streams2 closer for my talk, I find them quite nice
18:12:11  <thlorenz>it's verbose, but much easier to implement them correctly
18:12:43  <thlorenz>mbalho: also in the far future we could deprecate through and then use that name for through2
18:12:48  <mbalho>yea
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18:14:14  <thlorenz>mbalho: I usually write: var through = require('through2') - anyways
18:14:43  <mbalho>substack: nvm figured it out, just gotta parse the hex pairs in the string using parseInt(hex, 16)
18:15:00  <mbalho>thlorenz: i just wish it was one module and not 2 modules :)
18:15:07  <thlorenz>mbalho: agreed
18:15:22  <guybrush>mbalho: basically the dependencies here could be put into another editable-field so one can change them before doing the request https://github.com/maxogden/browser-module-sandbox/blob/master/index.js#L63-L67
18:15:28  <thlorenz>it could check for node version and or presence of readable-stream
18:15:42  <thlorenz>could be kinda confusing though
18:15:44  <mbalho>guybrush: yea totally
18:16:01  <mbalho>guybrush: i had planned to make the little dependencies box in the UI in the bottom right into a package.json editor but never did it
18:16:32  <guybrush>i will tinker around and send you PR's if i get something working
18:16:33  <mbalho>guybrush: so that when you require a module it automatically puts the version number of the latest release into there and saves it in a package.json when your app gets saved
18:16:38  <mbalho>guybrush: nice!
18:16:41  <guybrush>right
18:16:57  <mbalho>guybrush: jesusabdullah wrote browserify-cdn in case you have questions
18:17:06  <guybrush>but it should be updated maybe everytime you write something into the js-editor?
18:17:35  <mbalho>i guess every time you add a new require(), theres already an api that emits the list of required modules in there somewhere
18:17:41  <guybrush>oh nice
18:17:58  <mbalho>it uses require('detective') to do that
18:19:03  <thlorenz>substack: reproduced browserify-circular bug: https://github.com/thlorenz/browserify-circular-bug
18:19:25  <thlorenz>checked in node_modules to make sure that this will always repro
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20:23:20  <nexxy>WAT
20:27:00  <AvianFlu>OMG WAT DO
20:27:00  <LOUDBOT>ATHLONGS ARE THE NEW AMDG PROCESSORS THAT ARE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE INTEL CUNTIUM PROCESSORS GEARED TOWARDS MOBILE PHONES
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20:51:30  <jez0990>Domenic_: nice ljxs talk - I didn't realise things in that world were quite like that :)
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21:10:35  <chilts>jez0990: are they up somewhere to watch?
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21:11:04  <jez0990>chilts: mostly, I think http://2013.lxjs.org/conference
21:11:14  <jez0990>names are links to videos
21:11:20  <chilts>thanks :)
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21:15:04  <Domenic_>jez0990: thanks!! :)
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22:57:31  <isaacs>Raynos: yo
22:57:42  <isaacs>Raynos: this is lower latency than twitter, probably
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23:01:16  <Raynos>isaacs: agreed
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23:07:02  <isaacs>Raynos: so, yeah, for coffee, there's lots of great places.
23:07:11  <Raynos>sweet
23:07:12  <isaacs>mostly depends on how long you plan on sitting there.
23:07:44  <isaacs>i like modern coffee the best, and it's pretty near to 12th st bart
23:07:52  <Raynos>that sounds good
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23:10:06  <Raynos>isaacs: any particular time work for you?
23:10:17  <isaacs>thursday? whatever
23:10:28  <Raynos>2ish then ?
23:10:41  <isaacs>oh, i guess i have a thing in the morning
23:10:43  <isaacs>so, yeah, 2 works
23:11:09  <Raynos>cool.
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23:30:27  <owen1>mmalecki: if i remember he uses lenovo x120e with debian + dwm. or something similar
23:31:56  <tim_smart>substack: https://gist.github.com/806984c3318abf04becf :/
23:32:13  <tim_smart>That's a lot for an eventemitter
23:34:13  <mbalho>i get 253 822 7508
23:34:30  <mbalho>browserify 2.29.1, node 0.10.18
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23:47:34  <tim_smart>mbalho: 2.34.0 here
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23:51:45  <tim_smart>mbalho: I get 253 lines on 2.29.1 as well. Must be a recent thing
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