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00:00:34  <defunctzombie>https://github.com/defunctzombie/node-process/pull/7
00:00:36  <defunctzombie>substack thlorenz juliangruber
00:03:32  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: wat??
00:03:38  <thlorenz>that seems odd
00:05:05  <thlorenz>I'd argue that process.exit should only ever be called in ./bin/cli script
00:05:21  <thlorenz>so it follows that that code would never make it into the browser in the first place
00:05:34  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: I'll add that as a comment
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00:05:57  <defunctzombie>thanks
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07:34:19  <juliangruber>owen1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN4kVmSTkkM :)
07:34:25  <juliangruber>link to slides is in the description
07:34:30  <juliangruber>will finish the article when i find time
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11:27:15  <johnkpaul>juliangruber: great talk!
11:27:31  <johnkpaul>Is Thorsten's up too?
11:27:58  <johnkpaul>I wish there was a way to use discify to analyze a bundle
11:28:01  <johnkpaul>instead of the entry file
11:28:28  <johnkpaul>or analyze a browserify instance instead of an entry file
11:29:01  <johnkpaul>oh there is a way to give files manually, so that's fine
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11:38:15  <juliangruber>johnkpaul: thanks man :)
11:38:24  <juliangruber>not sure if thorsten recorded his talk
11:38:49  <johnkpaul>ah, didn't realize it was you doing the recording
11:39:26  <juliangruber>i havent' had the case where i needed that many standalone libs that browserify-shim was really of use
11:40:07  <johnkpaul>ah ok
11:40:13  <johnkpaul>I have over a dozen bower dependencies
11:40:21  <johnkpaul>and a lot of jQUery plugins
11:40:31  <johnkpaul>and browserify-shim makes that great
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16:23:08  <owen1>juliangruber: awesome!
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17:19:41  <mikolalysenko>slowly I've been porting the algorithms from here to javascript: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~jrs/papers/robustr.pdf
17:20:13  <mikolalysenko>eventually I'd like to get a full general purpose adaptive arithmetic library for computational geometry in javascript
17:20:43  <mikolalysenko>though I think you can use the same ideas in that paper to get a "poor man's big integer"
17:21:00  <mikolalysenko>basically represent your big int as a non-overlapping float sequence
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17:21:19  <mikolalysenko>then you can represent any number between -2^128 and 2^128 at increments of 2^{-128}
17:21:30  <mikolalysenko>plus some extra precision around 0 for denormalized stuff
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17:38:31  <jaz303>mikolalysenko: i find all this CG stuff fascinating but i struggle to understand a lot of it; do you have any advice about catching up on the more basic maths behind it?
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17:44:38  <mikolalysenko>jaz303: you could get a book maybe? the standard text book is de Berg: http://www.amazon.com/Computational-Geometry-Applications-Mark-Berg/dp/3540779736
17:44:57  <mikolalysenko>I think you can probably find a pdf of it out there somewhere
17:46:24  <mikolalysenko>jaz303: here you go: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=1de259b86dbe567bb24c58713c3f46a4&open=0
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17:47:10  <mikolalysenko>I have somewhat mixed feelings about the text overall, but I can't think of a better reference to be honest
17:47:51  <mikolalysenko>for other stuff it is worth checking out specific sources. for example, on basic geometric predicates you should read this: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~quake/robust.html
17:48:16  <mikolalysenko>(most geometric predicates reduce to computing the sign of some determinant)
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18:07:36  <jjjohnny>defunctzombie: your tweet reached me (@astromanies)
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18:15:59  <defunctzombie>jjjohnny: nice!
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18:18:08  <jjjohnny>defunctzombie: o/
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18:28:36  <defunctzombie>jjjohnny: I messaged you outside the channel to avoid channel clutter, if you prefer email instead let me know
18:30:25  <jjjohnny>defunctzombie: however you like, email is [email protected] if you want to send me the details
18:30:51  <jjjohnny>er, did you mean irc channel?
18:31:03  <ogd>mikolalysenko: check out http://maxogden.github.io/voxel-2d-print/
18:31:29  <defunctzombie>jjjohnny: irc direct message
18:31:48  <defunctzombie>hopefully your client picked up on that haha
18:31:59  <jjjohnny>should have, how do I check?
18:32:09  <jjjohnny>ircretary: show me the messages
18:32:10  <ircretary>jjjohnny: Sorry, that requires admin access.
18:33:07  <defunctzombie>"/msg defunctzombie foobar" what happens if you do that in your irc client?
18:33:44  <defunctzombie>if nothing happens then just join the #courseoff channel :) that will be easier
18:34:08  <jjjohnny>will join
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19:30:54  <jaz303>mikolalysenko: thanks for those links, i'll check them out this weekend
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20:09:55  <isaacs>Hey, front-end people who compress stuff!
20:10:05  <isaacs>UglifyJS doesn't work on Node master. Anyone got any alternatives you like?
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20:39:39  <isaacs>aha
20:46:28  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 173.203.67.76(free3)
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21:23:30  <defunctzombie>isaacs: wut
21:23:45  <defunctzombie>isaacs: how does it not work? iirc it doesn't even use native modules
21:23:53  <isaacs>defunctzombie: it doesn't use node module pattern
21:23:59  <defunctzombie>sigh
21:24:04  <isaacs>defunctzombie: it has its own vm.runInContext junk
21:24:08  <isaacs>but, there is a bona fide bug here.
21:24:10  <defunctzombie>...
21:24:13  <defunctzombie>really?
21:24:18  <defunctzombie>wtf
21:24:50  <defunctzombie>isaacs: https://github.com/Constellation/esmangle
21:24:59  <defunctzombie>isaacs: I don't use that in prod but you could check it out
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21:36:55  <defunctzombie>isaacs: there is also this? https://npmjs.org/package/uglifyjs
21:38:13  <isaacs>defunctzombie: yeah, that's uglifyjs :)
21:38:21  <isaacs>defunctzombie: that's the one i'm suing, it's busted on master
21:38:24  <isaacs>node-master, i mean
21:38:45  <defunctzombie>that one says it doesn't do the vm stuff
21:38:54  <defunctzombie>this is different than the official uglify-js module btw
21:38:59  <defunctzombie>if that wasn't immediately clear
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21:49:31  <isaacs>defunctzombie: oh... weird.
21:49:37  <isaacs>defunctzombie: it's like a commonjs-ified version?
21:49:50  <defunctzombie>I guess
21:50:13  <defunctzombie>I use the "official" module currently so I have no idea heh
21:50:34  <defunctzombie>I think the official module needs to stop the nonsense, maybe open an issue with them if you haven't?
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22:25:24  <jesusabdullah>http://imgur.com/proArHD :D :D
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23:17:11  <spion>yay
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23:22:34  <jcrugzz>isaacs: so how trivial is the rewrite of node-tar xD. spawning a tar process to unpack larger snapshots is causing spawn to blow up with enomem on our 256mb drones
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23:23:02  <isaacs>jcrugzz: why do you need to rewrite node-tar? why not just use it?
23:24:11  <jcrugzz>isaacs: it caused issues before in haibu with the slowness/hanging on larger files
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23:24:24  <jcrugzz>but obviously the smartos tar command is memory hungry
23:24:51  <isaacs>jcrugzz: probably just need to fix that bug, then
23:24:57  <isaacs>jcrugzz: i'd recommend using node-tar
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23:27:24  <jcrugzz>isaacs: alright, ill give it a go. im just hoping for less not more pain xD.
23:27:49  <isaacs>jcrugzz: you have already entered a world of pain
23:27:53  <isaacs>jcrugzz: the only way out is through.
23:28:06  <jcrugzz>isaacs: through stream obviously
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