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01:54:17  <jjjohnny>dang node did not install correctly, this never happens
01:55:24  <jjjohnny>i had to configure --without-snapshot
01:57:50  <jjjohnny>now node hangs
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02:32:42  <rvagg>defunctzombie: pong
02:32:50  <rvagg>defunctzombie: shal we make a new channel for this?
02:33:05  <jcrugzz>for all you bitcoin lovers https://github.com/chjj/termcoin cc dominictarr
02:34:08  <pfraze>I may buy bitcoin just to play with that ascii interface
02:34:50  <rvagg>defunctzombie: I'd like to see effort go in where required to get to some kind of package-management stage, the earlier it can do easy package sharing/installing the better
02:37:39  <jcrugzz>pfraze: yea blessed is pretty sweet for making terminal "gui" like things. it has a dom-like api as well
02:39:19  <pfraze>jcrugzz: was just looking at it and wondering if you could port it to webgl
02:39:52  <jcrugzz>pfraze: open an issue or ping chjj :). hes usually on irc
02:39:57  <jcrugzz>bbl
02:41:31  <rvagg>defunctzombie: we need to convince dominictarr to make a package manager, fully distributed, few opinions, no bdfl
02:42:08  <ogd>im writing a package manager for datasets right now
02:42:14  <ogd>was gonna base it on npm but too much technical debt
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02:43:37  <rvagg>ogd: oo, that sounds like a challenge, but I imagine you're doing the whole couch thing?
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02:44:42  <jjjohnny>dayum
02:45:24  <ogd>rvagg: it will be leveldb with some rsync-style stuff and cdn stuff added on for more flexibiltity around storing attachments
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02:49:09  <rvagg>ogd: cool, will we be able to modify it to distribute code?
02:49:18  <rvagg>.. and binaries
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03:03:06  <ogd>rvagg: ill keep you in the loop
03:03:15  <rvagg>
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05:02:26  <defunctzombie>rvagg: I agree
05:02:42  <defunctzombie>rvagg: new chan is fine by me
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05:03:18  <defunctzombie>rvagg: my requirements for a package manager are deterministic installs, if I can't have that.. it wont be any better than npm really
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05:06:51  <rvagg>defunctzombie: I'd like to see a package manager made up of small chunks, unix-like, that can be pulled together to make a fully functional whole in different ways, or you could just use the parts as invidual components in your own build process
05:07:09  <defunctzombie>rvagg: yea
05:07:28  <defunctzombie>rvagg: I have one part with the npm-install module
05:07:51  <defunctzombie>rvagg: which uses some other modules to do resolution, etc so it wouldn't be too painful to make something that installs
05:08:01  <defunctzombie>rvagg: dunno how much I care about the distributed aspects personally
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05:08:24  <defunctzombie>I think an apt repo module is fine as long as the main repo can be easily cloned by people
05:08:37  <defunctzombie>tho distributed is nice if you can make it happen
05:08:59  <rvagg>defunctzombie: it'd just be nice to learn from the npm mistakes (centralisation / couch / tarballs in registry)
05:09:06  <defunctzombie>yea
05:09:16  <defunctzombie>I think some of those are orthogonal tho
05:09:26  <defunctzombie>centralisation is unrelated to tarballs in registry
05:09:34  <defunctzombie>which I think is really the biggest mistake
05:09:40  <defunctzombie>everything else is not as much of an issue
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05:12:55  <defunctzombie>rvagg: #uvjs
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06:19:59  <dominictarr>rvagg, what is uvjs?
06:21:19  <rvagg>dominictarr: https://github.com/defunctzombie/libuv.js and related
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06:24:22  <rvagg>dominictarr: your chance to make a package manage from scratch!
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06:33:04  <dominictarr>rvagg, I've already learnt my lesson!
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06:40:53  <dominictarr>rvagg, although, if i did that, I could put the modules in tarrballs instead of tarballs. that would be good.
06:42:12  <dominictarr>groundwater, do you have a window system (X11?, wayland?) on nodeos, or is it just terminal?
06:43:07  <groundwater>dominictarr just terminal, i'm hoping some geniuses out there will fill in the rest :D
06:45:02  <substack>isaacs: SAW YOUR EDITS
06:45:08  <substack>oh man oakland wiki is so great
06:45:15  <substack>I am writing all kinds of stupid silly shit for it
06:45:24  <isaacs>substack: HELLS YEAH MAN
06:45:52  <isaacs>substack: oh, goodness, i can't wait until i can reasonably claim that npm, Inc is in fact in Oakland, and then declare it the actual JavaScript capital of the world
06:45:55  <isaacs>becuase this is where the npm registry lives.
06:46:03  <substack>hahah YESSS
06:46:07  <isaacs>while not strictly true, truth is bs anyway
06:46:09  <isaacs>:)
06:46:14  <dominictarr>groundwater, have you met tmpvar?
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06:46:19  <isaacs>the registry is mostly in us-est
06:46:21  <isaacs>*east
06:46:24  <substack>tjfontaine needs to move to oakland proper
06:46:26  <substack>OR
06:46:29  <dominictarr>he was telling be about wayland at nodeconf.eu
06:46:31  <substack>oakland needs to annex alameda
06:46:34  <substack>either one
06:46:45  <isaacs>yeah, either or
06:46:50  <isaacs>ok, it's adventure time time
06:46:51  <isaacs>g'nite
06:47:25  <substack>isaacs: and get the naming rights to some building like pandora and ask.com
06:47:41  <groundwater>dominictarr are there node moduels for it?
06:47:45  <groundwater>i don't know tmpvar
06:48:18  <groundwater>substack isaacs oakland mafia, at it again...
06:48:29  <substack>hells yeah
06:48:51  <dominictarr>campaign to s/Jack London Square/Isaac Schlueter Square/!
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06:49:01  <groundwater>substack be nice to us non-oakland easy-bayers in your new order
06:49:36  <dominictarr>groundwater, I don't know - I think he was talking about writing a client for it though.
06:49:51  <dominictarr>there is also a pure js node client for X11
06:49:55  <substack>groundwater: easy bayers are all good, got no qualms
06:50:15  <substack>oakland is the easy bay capital
06:50:34  * substackis outside around a camp fire in west oakland right now
06:50:37  <substack>with a ton of people
06:50:58  <substack>HENCE the article on oakland wiki about fire
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06:51:41  <groundwater>dominictarr okay, crazy idea... rather than tunnel x11, tunnel http and just do webapps?
06:51:51  <groundwater>if that made *any* sense
06:52:23  <groundwater>substack i have to say, i enjoy my trips into oakland to hack with ogd much more than heading into SF for about any reason
06:53:13  <substack>haha yeah sf sux
06:53:23  <substack>oaktowne is way more chill
06:53:30  <substack>javascript city
06:55:08  <dominictarr>groundwater, that is probably a even better idea, but can you run a browser without a an X?
06:57:11  <groundwater>dominictarr one step at a time i guess, run nodeos on the server, run another linux/osx/windows on the client
06:59:07  <dominictarr>groundwater, in the perfect world, the client is also a server.
07:00:45  <groundwater>dominictarr heh, exactly
07:03:20  <groundwater>web browsers are also still a second-tier experience for desktop apps
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07:04:10  <dominictarr>groundwater, browsers get the basic architecture right (by accident, of course)
07:04:53  <dominictarr>on the server side, you download untrusted applications over the network (untrusted from the perspective of the data center that owns the physical hardware)
07:05:23  <dominictarr>and on the client side, you download also download untrusted applications and run them in a secure sand box.
07:05:25  <rvagg>whatever you do, make sure HiDPI is first-class
07:05:28  <rvagg>sucks on linux at the moment
07:05:33  <rvagg>waiting for wayland and/or mir
07:05:42  <dominictarr>web browsers and hypervisors are basically the same thing.
07:06:29  <dominictarr>problem with browsers is just wacky legacy stuff, and no real support for native
07:06:46  <dominictarr>even though most "native" app store apps have web views
07:07:15  <dominictarr>they do that when development needs to be easy. when they need to have perf, they can be native.
07:07:51  <dominictarr>A light weight sandbox system with arbitrary permissions - that would be perfect.
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07:10:39  <groundwater>dominictarr rvagg i'm probably not the best guy to implement the desktop pieces of the os
07:11:00  <groundwater>i like to think i know what i'm doing creating the server os, but only time will tell
07:14:11  <dominictarr>groundwater, yeah, it's a different set of skills
07:19:19  <groundwater>dominictarr my goal is to provide just enough to let npm take over
07:19:30  <groundwater>i really just need a dhcp client now
07:19:35  <groundwater>FUCK DHCP
07:19:35  <LOUDBOT>WHY AM I STILL HERE
07:19:49  <groundwater>then a lot of spit and polish
07:20:36  <dominictarr>groundwater, hey - idea, something I've been thinking of/working on is to run cyanogenmod + a linux in chroot
07:21:13  <dominictarr>so I can do development with a very lightweight, long battery life setup
07:21:23  <dominictarr>maybe nodeos would work great here too?
07:23:05  <groundwater>i installed it onto a raspberry pi, and the only thing i noticed is that node is actually kinda heavy to start on the pi
07:23:11  <groundwater>dominictarr ^
07:23:35  <groundwater>if *every* command is starting a node instance, it kinda gets gross
07:24:33  <dominictarr>groundwater, yeah. so there are two candidates for a lightweight node
07:24:40  <groundwater>dominictarr so i've also been thinking about a sort of 'fork/require' module that can avoid the cost of starting node up multiple times
07:25:17  <dominictarr>there is also tessle.io which runs embedded js by converting js to lua
07:25:48  <dominictarr>and then there is esprimiuno which has a js interpreter - it's slow but very low memory.
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07:26:12  <dominictarr>you could probably bind either of those to libuv
07:26:32  <dominictarr>and esprimiuno runs in only a few k!
07:27:05  <groundwater>dominictarr i was gonna order a beagle board
07:27:31  <groundwater>heh, i don't like to stray outside areas with a traditional linux kernel
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07:28:56  <ogd>substack: excellent work on the wiki of late
07:29:26  <groundwater>dominictarr tessle.io has too many unanswered questions, i don't think it can run compiled modules at all
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07:32:34  <dominictarr>groundwater, hmm. yes. I met it's developers a while back. I told them to come hangout in #stackvm, havn't seen them though.
07:32:59  <dominictarr>groundwater, probably that it because it has it's own realtime OS.
07:33:28  <dominictarr>if you just pulled out the js->lua part that might be good
07:33:50  <dominictarr>although you'd need a polyfil for the js api to work with lua
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07:36:48  <ogd>http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/de33458677d011e2880f22000a1f9ca7_7.jpg
07:37:09  <groundwater>they look like jedi
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07:37:22  <jesusabdullah>hahaha
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07:42:50  <groundwater>dominictarr what would you need from nodeos to run forward with these ideas?
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07:51:12  <dominictarr>groundwater, hmm, well, I think the next step for me is to get a tablet that would be easy to root & run cyanogenmod on.
07:51:20  <dominictarr>just mentioning the idea for now.
07:56:35  <groundwater>dominictarr yah, understood
07:56:39  <groundwater>good ideas though
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08:00:40  <groundwater>i'd like to create a bootable raspberry pi/ beagleboard that was just plug'n play
08:00:57  <groundwater>so if anyone can write a dhcp client in node
08:01:10  <groundwater>i'll give you all my reddit karma
08:06:00  <dominictarr>would be interesting to do just to understand why dhcp sucks so much.
08:06:41  <groundwater>dominictarr i encourage you to give it a try :)
08:07:15  <groundwater>it's pissing me off, lol
08:07:29  <dominictarr>here is a start: https://github.com/apaprocki/node-dhcpjs
08:08:46  <groundwater>lol check https://github.com/apaprocki/node-dhcpjs/issues/2
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08:11:11  <groundwater>oh geeze, i think it's time to sleep
08:11:15  <groundwater>dominictarr good chat, ttyl
08:11:37  <dominictarr>groundwater, night!
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11:58:07  <guybrush>hmm is it just my code or is native-buffer-browserify broken in [email protected] ?
11:58:12  <guybrush>TypeError: buf.set is not a function
11:58:26  <guybrush>https://github.com/feross/native-buffer-browserify/blob/master/index.js#L86
12:00:02  <guybrush>waahh that is odd it must be my code
12:14:01  <guybrush>oh ok, actually it doesnt get augmented
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12:16:48  <guybrush>so this returns false for me in [email protected] and nightly https://github.com/feross/native-buffer-browserify/blob/master/index.js#L24-L31
12:16:54  <guybrush>feross: ^^^
12:19:18  <guybrush>to be more precise it throws and thus it returns false
12:20:32  <guybrush>so basically the right thing to do would be to use Buffer._useUint8Array at L86 too -- but it sucks anyway, when we need to use objects in ff
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12:35:53  <guybrush>i filed an issue for now, https://github.com/feross/native-buffer-browserify/issues/16
12:36:33  <guybrush>what is wrong wit firefox, why does it not allow to put stuff on uint8 instances
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17:13:34  <creationix>does anyone want to test some UX for me?
17:13:40  <creationix>I'm trying to make my editor a pleasure to use
17:13:56  <jesusabdullah>creationix: is your editor vim y/n
17:14:05  <creationix>jesusabdullah, nope, sorry
17:14:11  <jesusabdullah>welllll crap
17:14:15  <jesusabdullah>Uhh, I can take a look
17:14:23  <jesusabdullah>but I'll complain when A doesn't work
17:14:31  <creationix>https://github.com/creationix/tedit-app
17:14:46  <creationix>jesusabdullah, if you want to test, clone, run the .sh file and then load as a chrom extension
17:14:54  <creationix>or wait till the version I publishing to the store is live
17:15:07  <jesusabdullah>https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tedit-development-environ/ooekdijbnbbjdfjocaiflnjgoohnblgf
17:15:10  <jesusabdullah>this one?
17:15:32  <jesusabdullah>okay, so clone, run .sh file, how2load?
17:16:19  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, how do I load as chrome extension?
17:16:28  <creationix>jesusabdullah, go to chrome://extensions
17:16:35  <creationix>click on the developer mode box at top
17:16:39  <creationix>and then load unpacked extension
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17:17:12  <creationix>I just added full keyboard navigation to the treeview and am looking for feedback on that
17:17:18  <creationix>the editor itself is ace with stock keybindings
17:17:57  <jesusabdullah>.jk --> .just-kidding
17:18:19  <jesusabdullah>It'd be nice if I could make the treeview wider, some of my filenames are long
17:18:42  <jesusabdullah>When I open one, it still says 'welcome.jk' on the top
17:18:51  <creationix>heh, I forgot to update the title
17:19:02  <creationix>so drag on ace's gutter
17:19:07  <creationix>it's documented in welcome.jk
17:19:15  <creationix>you can get back be de-selecting the active file
17:19:44  <jesusabdullah>I see
17:20:00  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, if you could make the cursor all <-> over there that would be sick
17:20:38  <jesusabdullah>How do I close it?
17:23:44  <creationix>jesusabdullah, sorry, no close button right now, you'll have to use your platforms shortcuts
17:23:55  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, that's what I ended up doing
17:23:58  <creationix>also if you pull, it will fix the titlebar bug
17:24:16  <creationix>jesusabdullah, what do you mean "if you could make the cursor all <-> over there that would be sick"?
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17:24:27  <creationix>Does Alt-T not do what you want?
17:25:03  <jesusabdullah>I mean, when you hover over the gutter if the cursor showed that you could drag it around
17:25:16  <creationix>ahh, that can probably be added easy enough
17:25:25  <jesusabdullah>yeah, 'swhat I figured
17:25:29  <creationix>also did you try auto-hide?
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17:25:43  <creationix>manually drag the tree closed while the editor is focused
17:25:50  <creationix>and then use Alt-T to open the treeview
17:26:07  <creationix>the size of the tree while the tree is focussed will be remembered if you want to resize it
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17:28:18  <creationix>jesusabdullah, ok, added resize cursor if you pull again
17:28:24  <jesusabdullah>Cool, one sec
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17:36:14  <jesusabdullah>creationix: Nice, most excellent.
17:37:14  <creationix>jesusabdullah, I'm adding a close button now. Thanks for the feedback!
17:37:20  <jesusabdullah>you're welcome :)
17:37:23  <jesusabdullah>Oh and also
17:37:26  <jesusabdullah>it's not vim :(
17:37:28  <jesusabdullah>;)
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17:43:29  <creationix>jesusabdullah, ok, added close button
17:43:35  <creationix>thanks again
17:43:53  <creationix>you're welcome to make vim as a chrome app, I have no interest in that
17:44:02  <jesusabdullah>XD
17:44:07  <jesusabdullah><3
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18:06:09  <creationix>jesusabdullah, your feedback has been implemented and published to the store with fresh screenshots! https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tedit-development-environ/ooekdijbnbbjdfjocaiflnjgoohnblgf
18:06:33  <jesusabdullah>creationix: sweet!
18:07:41  <creationix>I love how easy it is to make chrome apps. I with the other app stores were the same
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18:09:10  <creationix>If you install the app store version, it will auto-update on all your chrome installs whenever I push a new version
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18:27:50  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 22]
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18:32:25  <pkrumins>exciting blog posts coming
18:32:37  <pkrumins>decided to blog about all the tricky issues we've been solving at browserling
18:33:51  <pkrumins>s/solving/dealing with/gemsix
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18:48:31  <jesusabdullah>nice pkrumins !
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18:48:47  <jesusabdullah>Looking forward.
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18:57:02  <pfraze>http://i.imgur.com/o7u0BgM.png interesting bug
19:02:44  <pfraze>just figured it out - debugger was screwing up
19:08:45  <pkrumins>jesusabdullah: did you see the first post? http://www.catonmat.net/blog/nasty-firefox-exception-bug/
19:10:09  <jesusabdullah>pkrumins: hax
19:10:31  <jesusabdullah>pkrumins: throw Errors not {}s :'(
19:12:19  <pkrumins>yep
19:17:21  <jesusabdullah>pkrumins: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-pinocchio
19:17:26  <jesusabdullah>pkrumins: that's basically my one "rant module"
19:18:53  <jesusabdullah>Kinda handy if you find yourself having to work with a shit library
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19:35:48  <anvaka>creationix: just curious, why are you building a new editor?
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19:37:15  <creationix>anvaka, to experiment with an idea
19:37:48  <creationix>anvaka, the hypothesis is that using an editor who's storage is git directly instead of the filesystem will make for a much easier workflow
19:38:09  <creationix>I want to make programming accessable to a much wider audience
19:38:41  <anvaka>interesting
19:40:16  <anvaka>creationix: how would this make workflows easier? Users will not have to use git commands? Or something else?
19:40:31  <creationix>anvaka, part of the proposed product is a publishing platform that's somewhat like github pages. It can replace build systems like grunt and make and make builds automatic
19:40:52  <creationix>anvaka, partially that, but mostly be taking advantages of the content-addressable tree format git uses
19:41:11  <creationix>there are a *lot* of assumptions you can make when the filesystem is based on a git tree
19:42:22  <ogd>creationix: hey you should check out http://substance.io/
19:42:39  <ogd>creationix: they work w/ node and open source publishing
19:43:06  <creationix>ogd, neat, thanks. though when I say "publishing" I mean it more generically
19:43:14  <creationix>exploder.creationix.com is one such example
19:43:33  <creationix>it's just a browser-based game, but some of the "static" files are generated on demand according to build rules in the git tree
19:44:16  <creationix>this platform can also be used to create blogs, wikis, etc, but I'm using it for things that grunt or "make" are usually used today
19:44:48  <creationix>the important thing is this takes the build step out of the workflow
19:45:07  <ogd>creationix: i was thinking maybe they needed someone to work on git workflows
19:45:59  <anvaka>creationix: this is neat. But someone still needs to do work, which was done by make tool. Is this part of your editor's responsibilities?
19:46:31  <creationix>anvaka, with my system you never commit the built files in the repo, just create receipies.
19:46:54  <creationix>the server that serves the files will compile them on-demand, the editor can render them on-demand for local testing
19:47:16  <creationix>but there is never a build step, just some resources that have dependencies or processing filters
19:48:04  <creationix>ogd, yeah, I'll happily talk to them about how js-git could help their workflow.
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19:49:41  <anvaka>creationix, what is receipies?
19:50:30  <creationix>anvaka, for example, compare this source and live deployment https://github.com/creationix/exploder/blob/master/manifest.appcache http://exploder.creationix.com/manifest.appcache
19:50:55  <creationix>I don't store the manifest in git since it would need manual updating every time one of it's dependent files gets changed
19:51:08  <creationix>so instead I just write a rule that tells the publishing platform how to render it
19:51:17  <creationix>it's rendered on demand and cached very smartly thanks to git semantics
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19:54:01  <creationix>It's super fast and effecient in ways that a fs or db backed server never could. I can serve that dynamic file 16K reqs/sec on my cheap desktop computer https://twitter.com/creationix/status/420696413018664960
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19:54:47  <creationix>and cache invalidation is automatic because of how git trees work
19:55:55  <anvaka>that's impressive
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19:56:47  <creationix>anvaka, basically, my goal is to remove the pain of learning to program
19:57:06  <creationix>I teach programming to girls and kids and the biggest roadblock I've seen is the painpoints
19:57:23  <creationix>setting up a dev environment is too painful, online environments require solid internet and are slow
19:57:28  <creationix>javascript has nasty warts, etc
19:57:37  <creationix>(I'm also creating a js-like language that's less warty and more fun)
19:57:49  <anvaka>jake?
19:58:14  <anvaka>oh, jack
19:58:30  <anvaka>I saw it in your tedit app
19:59:08  <anvaka>but then those people will not be able to code in javascript!
19:59:14  <anvaka>:) jk..
20:00:16  <creationix>anvaka, people will learn what they want to learn
20:00:25  <creationix>but for teaching, I want something simpler than js
20:00:52  <anvaka>creationix, do you see better acceptance so far?
20:01:01  <creationix>haven't tried yet
20:01:16  <creationix>I do know that all the experienced JS developers that I show Jack to are extremely excited to start using it
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20:01:58  <creationix>whereas coffeescript is ruby syntax for js, jack actually changes the semantics slightly and keeps a similair syntax (though with less commas and semicolons)
20:03:39  <creationix>I should write up a blog post some time on all the features and goals of this platform
20:03:43  <anvaka>yep!
20:04:00  <anvaka>that would be great
20:04:20  <creationix>anvaka, so you tried the chrome app?
20:04:32  <anvaka>Yes
20:04:39  <creationix>I've been working on UX design the last couple days. Trying to make is easy to use
20:04:58  <creationix>as soon as it's feature complete enough, I'll start using it exclusively to develop itself and my other code
20:05:27  <anvaka>that's a good way to go
20:05:38  <creationix>I think the biggest change so far is I don't mind developing on windows anymore (since there is zero terminal interaction in the new workflows)
20:06:06  <creationix>the filesystem is not on the disk and so I get full support for case-sensitive names, symlinks, and executable bits on files
20:06:33  <pkrumins>Just published a new blog post! About how we get rid of annoying browser dialogs in Browserling and Testling: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/nasty-browser-dialogs/
20:06:37  <pkrumins>jesusabdullah: ^^
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20:08:11  <anvaka>creationix: there is a small bug under osx - can't quit the process
20:08:21  <anvaka>creationix: but I like visual design of the app
20:08:26  <creationix>the [X] doesn't work?
20:08:36  <anvaka>I used Cmd + Q
20:08:44  <anvaka>and it's stuck now
20:08:58  <creationix>yeah, OSX has the least polished integration with chrome apps
20:09:03  <creationix>hopefully google is working on that
20:09:15  <creationix>linux, windows, and chromeos are great!
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20:10:40  <anvaka>creationix btw, I remember you was on javascript jabber very often. You stopped doing it?
20:11:00  <creationix>well, mostly I didn't have a computer with reliable skype
20:11:07  <creationix>also js-git has kept me ultra busy
20:11:14  <anvaka>fair enough
20:11:23  <creationix>now that I'm using windows and skype is built-in I get their weekly call at least
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20:12:12  <anvaka>awesome, so hope to hear you again :)
20:13:17  <creationix>anvaka, we're doing an episode on js-git sometime in march
20:13:40  <creationix>(yes, they are scheduled out that far already, it's crazy)
20:15:18  <anvaka>I'm not surprised :). They have really good content
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23:04:22  <jesusabdullah>ogd: Cool lil' PR you got goin' there
23:04:31  <ogd>jesusabdullah: what
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23:05:13  <jesusabdullah>ogd: on node, the crypro one
23:05:16  <jesusabdullah>*approval*
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23:05:38  <jesusabdullah>With this taco thing: Do you know about mmalecki's "santa" ? I think it's under his company's github
23:05:40  <ogd>jesusabdullah: ah yea, its an issue tho
23:05:50  <ogd>jesusabdullah: yea totes
23:05:56  <ogd>jesusabdullah: i wanna combine santa and taco
23:05:57  <jesusabdullah>Also I might borrow some code from taco, it's similar to something I've kinda wanted for a while
23:06:06  <jesusabdullah>ogd: santo
23:06:16  <ogd>jesusabdullah: if you do try breaking it up into module, i need to do that anyway
23:06:22  <jesusabdullah>word
23:06:32  <jesusabdullah>Really I want the nginx orchestration stuff :)
23:06:51  <jesusabdullah>I'm thinking about building a little thing that lets people manage nginx vhosts with ye olde web ui + ftp
23:07:01  <jesusabdullah>See if I can get friends using godaddy clones to use me instead
23:07:07  <ogd>oh theres already sub-modules i wrote for that
23:07:11  <jesusabdullah>Josh's Big Ass CPU Rental and Data Storage
23:07:20  <jesusabdullah>ogd: oh word? Cool \m/
23:07:54  <jesusabdullah>Only wrinkle now is, I was thinking about building it in raylez cause I'm sick of writing basic models
23:08:06  <jesusabdullah>but that shouldn't be too bad, I have 60% of the parts I need to ease that pain
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23:14:30  <ogd>brianloveswords: hey whats your setup for POSSE twitter?
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23:15:46  <brianloveswords>ogd: I wrote a thing! It's kinda specific, I got rushed near the end, it still needs work -_-
23:15:48  <brianloveswords>ogd: http://github.com/brianloveswords/posse-twitter
23:16:07  <ogd>brianloveswords: i wanna git push taco master it
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23:16:49  <jesusabdullah>oh, ogd why mon/mongroup instead of, say, upstart?
23:16:50  <brianloveswords>ogd: Oh rad! Yeah, give it a shot. The most specific stuff is related to design (like I hardcoded my design, it's what's up at http://bjb.io)
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23:18:25  <brianloveswords>ogd: ah, I really need to update the readme though for everything you actually need to do.
23:18:45  <brianloveswords>ogd: can you file a bug telling me to do that, I'm just about to run out to move gear & play a show!
23:19:14  <ogd>brianloveswords: kewl shred well
23:19:57  <jesusabdullah>shred like the wind!
23:21:12  <jesusabdullah>Oh neat, I think I could just fork this and hack it into what I want
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23:22:23  <jesusabdullah>ogd: I'll name it, "crunchwrap-supreme"
23:23:17  <ogd>jesusabdullah: just require('nginx-vhosts') and write a thing on top of it
23:23:39  <jesusabdullah>yeah but there's other tiny pieces of code here I think I could reuse <_<;
23:24:23  <jesusabdullah>okay maybe not, index.js is mostly git handling
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23:25:12  <jesusabdullah>nice bootstrapper btw
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23:27:50  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 11]
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23:33:36  <jesusabdullah>substack: where did http://substack.net/data/marak.txt go?
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23:34:38  <jesusabdullah>substack: not important as I found an example in node-markov
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23:44:35  <contrahax>jesusabdullah did you find marak.txt?
23:44:39  <jesusabdullah>substack: OHHHHH
23:44:44  <jesusabdullah>contrahax: nah, quantz.txt
23:45:00  <jesusabdullah>substack: node-markov hasn't been updated to streams 2
23:46:52  <jesusabdullah>substack: or rather, node-marak (and probs node-isaacs, they make an assumption about events that doesn't apply no more
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23:50:11  <jesusabdullah>substack: I'm making node-korben
23:50:41  <daleharvey>brianloveswords: you doing the facebook thing again next month?
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23:55:40  <jesusabdullah>https://gist.github.com/jesusabdullah/8498523
23:55:44  <jesusabdullah>Need to make more
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