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00:46:31  <terinjokes>jcrugzz: gyp http GET http://nodejs.org/dist/v0.10.26/node-v0.10.26.tar.gz
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00:49:50  <pkrumins>terinjokes: didnt know about `gyp http GET` before
00:50:03  <terinjokes>pkrumins: sorry, that's from the log of an install
00:50:06  <pkrumins>terinjokes: does it just fetch that url like wget or also builds it?
00:50:13  <pkrumins>ahh
00:50:37  <terinjokes>pkrumins: so it looks just like npm fetching a package, just it says 'gyp' instead of 'npm'
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01:55:27  <terinjokes>jcrugzz: reading the logs, getting a bunch of errors to retry the fetch of 'downpress'
01:55:41  <terinjokes>"due to out of sync attachment stubs"
01:55:46  <jcrugzz>terinjokes: yea that will happen
01:55:55  <terinjokes>do they eventually just go away?
01:56:02  <jcrugzz>they won't go away
01:56:06  <jcrugzz>that will keep happening
01:56:12  <jcrugzz>but it eventually does get the attachment
01:56:18  <jcrugzz>most of the time
02:03:56  <terinjokes>jcrugzz: indeed, seems to have eventually gotten it
02:03:59  <terinjokes>or it shut up
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16:21:01  <defunctzombie>isaacs: using npm publish "--tag" totally didn't work
16:21:02  <defunctzombie>when I "npm install" I get the version I just published with a different tag
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19:59:03  <mikolalysenko>I've been thinking a bit about patching/replication again
19:59:28  <mikolalysenko>there are now a lot more packages out there that solve the problem, but I'm having trouble finding rigorous treatments of the problem
20:01:14  <mikolalysenko>one way to think about the problem is how to compute the conditional entropy of a pair of objects constructively
20:01:39  <mikolalysenko>basically h(x|y) = size of smallest patch from y to x
20:02:13  <mikolalysenko>there are also schema based approaches
20:02:37  <mikolalysenko>which incorporate extra information into the patching and thus achieve smaller patches
20:02:57  <mikolalysenko>also with a schema it is possible to precompile the patching method and get better performance
20:03:41  <mikolalysenko>if you know an object follows some schema, it stands to reason that you can compress it given that data
20:04:01  <mikolalysenko>for example, know that a string matches some regular expression should make it possible to encode that string in fewer characters
20:05:17  <mikolalysenko>ie, a length 10 string that matches the pattern [01]* only takes 10 bits, while a length 10 string matched by .* could take more than 80 bits depending on the unicode encoding
20:05:51  <mikolalysenko>this all sewems intuitive, but I am having trouble finding references which treat this subject carefully
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20:14:12  <thlorenz>mmalecki so got my arch linux setup, talking via hexchat actually :)
20:15:05  <thlorenz>went with manjaro to set it up though, bootldr was a bit too many new things at once, i.e. zfs
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22:05:55  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: seaport services down: web.testling
22:12:47  <ogd>jesusabdullah: i'm seeing large amounts of "ESC[37;40mcullESC[0m error parsing response data" in the wzrd.in logs, not sure where its coming from
22:13:03  <jesusabdullah>is npm having problems?
22:13:15  <jesusabdullah>oh, yeah, that code's trying to listen to npm
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22:13:24  <jesusabdullah>to do cache busting
22:13:33  <ogd>ill try upgrading to latest npm
22:13:38  <jesusabdullah>Okay
22:13:55  <jesusabdullah>It's just logging it yeah? Not crashing?
22:14:13  <ogd>it logs it *a lot*
22:18:10  <ogd>the chris-lea ppa hasnt updated to 10.26 yet for ubuntu raring, i sent the d00d a tweet asking for an upgrade
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22:21:03  <ogd>oh i need to update to saucy
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22:30:39  <ogd>ok upgraded to saucy and restarted
22:30:44  <ogd>we'll see if the errors stop
22:31:01  <ogd>(also upgraded to node 10.26 and npm 1.4.3)
22:32:28  <kanzure>anyone know if this will buffer POST/PUT data? https://github.com/dominictarr/proxy-by-url
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22:33:44  <ogd>kanzure: it does whatever node-http-proxy does
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22:34:51  <ogd>jesusabdullah: can you point me to the line that logs the "error parsing response data"
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22:36:21  <ogd>jesusabdullah: cause its still printing it a ton
22:37:22  <jesusabdullah>ogd: likely comes from https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/blob/master/bundler/npm-cull.js#L29
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22:38:11  <jesusabdullah>ogd: and from https://github.com/rvagg/npm-publish-stream/blob/master/npm-publish-stream.js#L21
22:38:16  <ogd>k gotcha
22:38:42  <jesusabdullah>ogd: https://github.com/rvagg/npm-publish-stream/blob/master/npm-publish-stream.js#L10 ooh
22:39:07  <ogd>oh yea
22:39:23  <ogd>https://github.com/rvagg/npm-publish-stream/issues/2
22:40:23  <ogd>jesusabdullah: im thinkign we need to make bcdn more tolerant of npm-publish-stream crapping out
22:40:39  <jesusabdullah>ogd: it's not crashing just logging, right?
22:41:13  <ogd>jesusabdullah: correct
22:41:26  <jesusabdullah>ogd: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/blob/master/bundler/npm-cull.js#L32 This is only 60 seconds maybe we need incremental backoff of some kind?
22:41:52  <jesusabdullah>eww state machine tho
22:42:10  <ogd>jesusabdullah: i wonder if npm-publish-stream is emitting multiple errors for a single stream
22:42:35  <jesusabdullah>that would be interesting
22:42:47  <ogd>jesusabdullah: i have a theory that the code there creates many instances of npmpublishstream
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22:43:12  <ogd>jesusabdullah: and causes more error logging to happen than shbould be happening due to many instances hanging around
22:43:16  <jesusabdullah>ogd: Oh yeah, if the old stream wasn't cleaning up...
22:43:29  <ogd>it might just need a .destroy or something
22:43:41  <jesusabdullah>Yeah lemme look in npm-publish-stream
22:44:31  <jesusabdullah>ogd: I have a better idea
22:44:43  <jesusabdullah>ogd: it polls, so I'll get rid of that crap and, yeah
22:46:11  <jesusabdullah>ogd: testing now
22:46:24  <ogd>jesusabdullah: also we apparently need a new hostname
22:46:55  <jesusabdullah>oh?
22:46:58  <jesusabdullah>go on?
22:47:13  <jesusabdullah>ohhhh right
22:47:15  <jesusabdullah>yeah I'm on it
22:47:19  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 26]
22:47:25  <ogd>asked in #npm
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22:48:57  <ogd>jesusabdullah: try skimdb.npmjs.com
22:49:15  <jesusabdullah>skimdb? good idea
22:49:36  <ogd>yea since we arent getting attachments
22:49:38  <jesusabdullah>.com? not .org?
22:49:49  <ogd>yea thats what it says on the npm blog
22:50:03  <jesusabdullah>yeah, .org wasn't havin' it
22:50:39  <jesusabdullah>Okay ogd try master
22:52:17  <ogd>jesusabdullah: oh cool so refreshRate pretty much does what we want i guess?
22:52:48  <terinjokes>who can i ping to get the bit set to be able to go through can close old issues on npm/npmjs.org?
22:53:11  <ogd>terinjokes: isaacs
22:53:21  <ogd>terinjokes: ask in #npm on a weekday during business hours too
22:54:34  <terinjokes>ogd: suppose most people aren't working today, haha
22:56:33  <jesusabdullah>ogd: Yeah, not incremental backoff but it's still bigger than originally
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22:58:35  <ogd>jesusabdullah: found another issue, https://github.com/rvagg/npm-publish-stream/pull/3
22:58:52  <jesusabdullah>ogd: oh siiick
22:58:56  <ogd>jesusabdullah: which means adding two more lines to npm-cull.js: port: 443, protocol: 'https://'
22:59:04  <ogd>jesusabdullah: but then it works
22:59:07  <jesusabdullah>same opts block?
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22:59:21  <ogd>jesusabdullah: yea
22:59:23  <jesusabdullah>Since you made the fix, wanna PR it? If not I can do it and you can chuck changes
22:59:42  <ogd>jesusabdullah: might as well wait for rvagg to merge and publish
22:59:48  <jesusabdullah>haha, alright
23:00:25  <ogd>jesusabdullah: actually ill just do it now and also update the dependency to use my fork
23:00:42  <jesusabdullah>sounds good
23:01:06  <ogd>jesusabdullah: am i a collaborator on browserify-cdn?
23:01:28  <jesusabdullah>I don't think so but I can try adding you
23:01:54  <jesusabdullah>ogd: done
23:04:29  <ogd>oops i crashed browserify-cdn hehehe
23:06:25  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.57.171.229 (dev-ie6-2)
23:06:28  <terinjokes>:(
23:06:48  <ogd>ok fixed
23:06:57  <kanzure>is there a streaming reverse proxy in node? i see there's a union thing, but i dunno if it has reverse proxy stuff out of the box.
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23:11:46  <jesusabdullah>kanzure: reverse proxy? What do you have in mind? Union??
23:12:07  <jesusabdullah>kanzure: node-http-proxy and bouncy are both streaming. Not what you need?
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23:20:26  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 50.57.174.105(dev-ie8-2)
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23:38:22  <thlorenz>is it possible to inject a file into a tar stream?
23:38:27  <thlorenz>chrisdickinson, ^
23:38:48  <kanzure>jesusabdullah: really what i want is some lame way of making heroku work for /blog and /object on the same domain routing to different apps (possibly hosted by heroku or not)
23:38:54  <thlorenz>i.e extract(archive).pipe(transformWhichAddsFile).pipe(newArchive)
23:39:13  <kanzure>jesusabdullah: i was using http-proxy plus proxy-by-url but it turns out that http-proxy has changed too much since proxy-by-url
23:39:23  <jesusabdullah>kanzure: try using http-proxy directly
23:39:37  <jesusabdullah>kanzure: or use thlorenz' suggestion, in fact that might be *better* given your use case
23:40:00  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah, what suggestion? my question was totally unrelated
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23:40:24  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: oh sorry, misread XD
23:40:27  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: I don't know
23:40:41  <thlorenz>I'm just wondering if it is possible - can't find any info on it
23:40:50  <jesusabdullah>kanzure: but yeah, try req.pipe(request('/http://thing')).pipe(res);
23:41:04  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: Yeah no idea here, that would be sick though
23:41:25  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah, I need it to inject a Dockerfile into a tarball pulled from github
23:42:14  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah, looking at https://github.com/mafintosh/tar-stream#modifying-existing-tarballs
23:42:35  <robertkowalski>isaacs: somehow it happened that i started the cache.js refactor which everybody seemed to talk about: https://github.com/npm/npm/pull/4824
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