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00:01:24  <jesusabdullah>so here's what I'm thinking now
00:02:17  <jesusabdullah>I found a paper where on every tick buyers bid and sellers advertise, and they use a reverse auction algorithm to pair things up
00:02:36  <jesusabdullah>but it only really worked for commodities like settlers-of-catan-style
00:02:48  <jesusabdullah>I think I can fix that by normalizing value to a dollar amount
00:03:21  <jesusabdullah>ooh, what if I did something using vectors
00:03:48  <jesusabdullah>of like, "values" and their comparative worth as understood by the agent
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00:03:59  <jesusabdullah>I should write this in erlang
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00:04:23  <jesusabdullah>wait that's almost more a matrix
00:04:32  <jesusabdullah>idk what the n dimensional data type would be
00:05:32  <jesusabdullah>oh, well no, it would be a vector, and you'd need to account for both vector norm ("the bid") and vector cosines (deviance from desired)
00:06:07  <substack>jesusabdullah: probably there's some ndarray module for that
00:06:17  <jesusabdullah>yeah definitely
00:06:31  <jesusabdullah>if not they're easy enough to write
00:09:26  <jesusabdullah>There's some finagling with resource pooling as well, but I think those will work out
00:10:06  <jesusabdullah>hmmm
00:10:10  <jesusabdullah>I might be onto something here
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00:13:29  <jesusabdullah>aha, actual auction types on wikipedia
00:16:49  <jesusabdullah>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_auction
00:16:51  <jesusabdullah>np-hard
00:16:53  <jesusabdullah>daaaamn
00:18:39  <substack>there's probably a suboptimal but fast heuristic version
00:22:43  <jesusabdullah>ooh, dot product
00:22:54  <jesusabdullah>is the calculation I want
00:22:59  <jesusabdullah>for the multivariate thing
00:24:55  <jesusabdullah>and I can build that choice model to seed the startup models
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00:27:55  <jez0990>jesusabdullah: do you know the procedural space adventure game called Limit Theory
00:28:06  <daleharvey>how do I watchify / (browserify) a directory in node?
00:28:48  <daleharvey>doing the equivalent of browserify test/*.js but with watchify
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00:29:22  <substack>except that you have to use -o with watchify
00:29:23  <jez0990>jesusabdullah: anyway the guy behind it has been working on the economy aspect recently and he seems like he's researched it pretty well, you can check out this video and the forums to understand his inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4PVSIShRgM
00:29:39  <daleharvey>watchify('test/*.js'); gives me module not found
00:29:41  <jesusabdullah>I don't jez0990
00:29:50  <daleharvey>Error: Cannot find module 'tests/performance/perf*.js' from '/Users/daleharvey/src/pouchdb'
00:29:59  <jesusabdullah>cool jez0990
00:30:11  <substack>daleharvey: that's the api, not the command-line
00:30:24  <substack>anyways the api is the same as browserify
00:30:28  <daleharvey>s/in node/from the api
00:30:36  <substack>daleharvey: you can use the glob module
00:30:39  <substack>to expand globs
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00:33:18  <daleharvey>watchify(['some.js', 'files.js']) gives me cannot find module as well
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00:37:34  <daleharvey>watchify({files: files}); doesnt crash, but doesnt seem to .on('update'
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00:39:40  <substack>daleharvey: { entries: files }
00:41:11  <daleharvey>substack: same module not found error https://gist.github.com/daleharvey/9965769
00:44:22  <jesusabdullah>ohh, this sounds like linear optimization now
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00:47:25  <daleharvey>it only adds deps via bundle()
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00:58:20  <daleharvey>substack: its exactly the same problem when I try to do straight browserify
00:59:55  <daleharvey>https://gist.github.com/daleharvey/9965997
01:01:44  <daleharvey>tried with {entries: []} which from what I can tell from the source is whats expected
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01:28:06  <thlorenz>feross: if you're still wanting to improve wicked, I decided the next step should be to loose the jsdoc dependency
01:28:17  <thlorenz>so we need a jsdoc -> AST parser :)
01:29:35  <thlorenz>although the only thing out there right now jsdoc is not ideal for what wicked and docme actually need and too much in flux atm
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01:33:00  <airportyh>isaacs: is there an npm api for getting download counts, dependents, and star counts for a module?
01:33:11  <airportyh>anyone?
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01:37:26  <ogd>airportyh: https://github.com/npm/download-counts/
01:38:23  <airportyh>ogd: sweet!
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02:06:46  <feross>i’m just using jsdoc directly now, actually
02:06:50  <feross>it’s pretty horrible
02:06:54  <feross>^ thlorenz
02:07:46  <thlorenz>feross: yep :( all we need is that jsdoc parser to create an AST I think there maybe a module like that already (I think by TJ)
02:07:58  <thlorenz>then we can render markdown from that
02:08:37  <thlorenz>instead of html and we could have different renderers that will not create a gzillion columns
02:09:29  <thlorenz>feross: this will do I think :) https://github.com/visionmedia/dox
02:10:19  <thlorenz>or at least something like that, I'd just want it to give me something more like an AST with the raw values preserved
02:11:38  <feross>thlorenz: seems like a solid approach
02:12:05  <feross>i read some article about dox and it seemed really opinionated so i passed on it
02:12:27  <feross>but now that it just provides json, seems more useful
02:12:51  <thlorenz>feross: yeah, but I don't know why it already rendered html for the description
02:14:07  <thlorenz>I'd actually just want an array of lines - each line would have a type, i.e. @param or @raw or @description
02:14:29  <thlorenz>then you just step through the lines and decide how to render them
02:15:23  <thlorenz>feross: the dox example includes (default) values for stuff that wasn't even in the jsdoc so you don't know what I actually would like to see in the documentation
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02:19:33  <thlorenz>feross: now we are getting somewhere - this is what jsdoc is using to parse https://github.com/hegemonic/catharsis
02:20:55  <thlorenz>feross: ok so next on my list figure out how to use this to get rid of this horrible jsdoc :)
02:32:40  <thlorenz>feross: PRs welcome ;) https://github.com/thlorenz/jsdocme
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02:45:33  <thlorenz>ircretary: tell ferros to checkout https://github.com/thlorenz/jsdocme -- PRs welcome
02:45:33  <ircretary>thlorenz: I'll be sure to tell ferros
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02:47:31  <feross>thlorenz: it’s spelled feross, not ferros ;)
02:48:00  <feross>i actually checked out jsdocme already. it’s pretty neat
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03:39:59  <substack>daleharvey: try resolving the paths fully
03:40:23  <substack>files.map(function (file) { return path.resolve(file) })
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03:53:22  <airportyh>defunctzombie: https://gist.github.com/airportyh/9967744
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04:32:13  <daleharvey>hrm, well this is confusing
04:32:14  <daleharvey>https://gist.github.com/daleharvey/9968186
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04:53:26  <daleharvey>ah, weird error, touched an empty file and confused require
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08:18:49  <dominictarr>mmckegg, hey whats up?
08:19:49  <mmckegg>dominictarr: hey, the usual! you back in town?
08:32:02  <dominictarr>yes - only for a few more days though
08:32:11  <dominictarr>then off to melb and onwards
08:35:44  <mmckegg>Got time for a beer before you head off?
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08:51:18  <dominictarr>mmckegg, yes!
08:55:14  <mmckegg>I'm gonna be in town tomorrow evening to see luke play at puppies. wanna grab a beer before that?
08:58:25  <substack>need to get disasteradio to start composing algorithms
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09:05:16  <mmckegg>Codewave
09:06:56  <substack>http://studio.substack.net/workpocalypse?time=1396602408665
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09:22:58  <dominictarr>mmckegg, haha oh just meet me there
09:25:31  <mmckegg>dominictarr: sweet
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09:53:41  <dominictarr>mmckegg, oh actually - come around before - 7a majoribanks st
09:56:29  <mmckegg>dominictarr: ok when is too early?
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15:25:01  <defunctzombie>ircretary: tell airportyh check out the www repo
15:25:01  <ircretary>defunctzombie: I'll be sure to tell airportyh
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16:17:44  <niftylettuce_>niftylettuce/jquery-validation to jzaefferer/jquery-validation
16:18:13  <niftylettuce_>HI STACKVM PEOPLE I HAVEN'T YELLED IN A LONG TIME, SO HI THERE.
16:18:14  <LOUDBOT>I HATE WEB BROWSERS
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17:22:14  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: npm packages are super useful what do you mean with that tweet?
17:22:19  <thlorenz>depending on versioning maybe?
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17:25:05  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 184.106.106.66(dev-ie7-1)
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17:53:17  <jesusabdullah>isaacs: npm has a concept of lifecycles, right? Can you tell me more about how that works?
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17:59:40  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: don't be scared
17:59:44  <defunctzombie>I was just trolling
17:59:51  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: yes.. I meant depending on semver
17:59:54  <defunctzombie>:)
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18:00:01  <thlorenz>ok
18:00:28  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: makes sense, but if we could just kinda educate ppl to follow semver it'd be nice
18:00:51  <thlorenz>however to depend on them doing it correctly before giving it some time is not a good idea IMO
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19:59:24  <nlacasse>dominictarr: Thanks for putting together the crypto hash comparison! I found it very helpful.
19:59:42  <nlacasse>dominictarr: Im curious if you checked out js-nacl (https://github.com/tonyg/js-nacl)
19:59:57  <nlacasse>Emscripten-compiled version of NaCl crypto library.
20:00:14  <nlacasse>I used it in a project recently, and was really impressed with it's speed, but I didn't make any real benchmarks.
20:00:25  <nlacasse>And on FF (which optimizes asm.js), its *blazing* fast.
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20:05:38  <thealphanerd>nlacasse: did the project come pre compiled? Do you know what optimizatio nsetttings were used, and if it wen t9hrough closure compiler?
20:06:25  <nlacasse>thealphanerd: the git repo is pre-compiled, but theres a Makefile to re-compile yourself
20:06:28  <nlacasse>https://github.com/tonyg/js-nacl/blob/master/Makefile
20:07:10  <thealphanerd>I was doing some research using emscripten as part of a compiler tool chain to compile the signal processing language Faust to make web audio unit generators
20:07:12  <nlacasse>it does go through closure compiler
20:07:39  <thealphanerd>definitely going to grep this make file and see what optimzations they use
20:07:47  <thealphanerd>looks like just -O2 and closure compiler
20:07:49  <nlacasse>sounds cool!
20:07:50  <nlacasse>yeah
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20:08:02  <thealphanerd>https://github.com/TheAlphaNerd/faust2webaudio
20:08:04  <thealphanerd>its not perfect yet
20:08:19  <thealphanerd>but there are some super cool applications
20:09:27  <thealphanerd>I like that there is clean and a veryclean make function
20:09:27  <thealphanerd>lul
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20:26:49  <hughsk>Raynos: pong
20:26:53  <hughsk>what's up? :)
20:27:09  <Raynos>was trying to get discify to work
20:27:11  <Raynos>figured i tout
20:27:13  <Raynos>it out*
20:28:04  <hughsk>ah cool, glad to hear it
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20:38:06  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: A developer is waiting in the queue for explorer/11.0
20:47:17  <jlord>can anyone point me to an example of best/simplest way to have your command line module save a confif setting to a users bash profile
20:47:41  <jlord>*config
20:47:58  <jlord>Initial Google turned up nothing, I may be failing to describe it correctly tho
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20:59:45  <misterinterrupt>in teh zone
21:00:42  * substackpasses a zoning ordinance
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21:04:03  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 3, free: 23]
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21:09:07  <misterinterrupt>what's with all this zoney balogna?
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21:10:02  <misterinterrupt>substack: I have been listening to Steve Reich so much lately. Do you know/like/get inspired by his work?
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21:12:53  <misterinterrupt>timpani zone
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21:30:42  <substack>misterinterrupt: haven't heard of steve reich
21:31:01  <substack>misterinterrupt: here's my latest thing http://studio.substack.net/workpocalypse?time=1396602408665
21:31:49  <misterinterrupt>wow, I was hoping for either you didnt know and you would now find out about his work or that you already knew and it was already something you loved
21:32:02  <misterinterrupt>This is so cool!
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21:35:25  <misterinterrupt>I recommend Music for 18 Musicians btw
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21:50:36  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 50.57.174.105(dev-ie8-2)
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22:04:03  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 25]
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22:16:36  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 184.106.99.27 (dev-ie7-3)
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22:37:38  <jjjohnny_>sometimes I like steve reich
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22:42:58  <misterinterrupt>jjjohnny_: yeah I hear you, time is bullshit can't rely on preference for very long
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23:23:36  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.57.72.216 (free8)
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23:25:06  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 184.106.106.66(dev-ie7-1)
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