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04:58:20  <dominictarr___>substack: have you heard of this browser: http://www.maxthon.com/
04:58:36  <dominictarr___>it uses a fork of v8 and is faster in v8's own benchmarks
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07:55:24  <dominictarr___>jjjohnny_: people take the idea of money for granted, and are so concerned with getting it that they rarely stop to think about what money even is.
07:55:51  <dominictarr___>I don't buy into the "store of value" idea of money
07:58:14  <dominictarr___>there is still something that is totally centralized about bitcoin.
07:58:21  <dominictarr___>there is only one genesis block.
07:59:24  <dominictarr___>and only one block chain. node's that have no bitcoins still possess the capability for providing value (i.e. working)
07:59:57  <dominictarr___>except for them to get any bitcoins they must trade that labor/energy only with those other nodes that already have bitcoins.
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08:02:17  <substack>bwhaha revisited my angular clone stuff
08:02:25  <substack>I think I've pretty much got the basics all down
08:03:32  <substack>it's basically just a response for people who already know how to build webapps to give to manager types who really want to use a tool with a brand like angular
08:04:04  <jxson_>haha like a subversive non-brand that lets you do what you want?
08:04:10  <substack>pretty much!
08:04:24  <jxson_>i love it
08:04:30  <substack>it does offer some structure that is useful for people who need that while not getting in your way at all
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08:05:56  <substack>I've got the scoping model working really well now
08:06:13  <substack>so you can do all the same things that ng-controller can do, but as modules
08:06:22  <jxson_>thats nice, I'm about to use angular on a project. I'll have to compare the two once I have a solid understanding of angular
08:06:26  <substack>and none of that functionality is even implemented in the core of it, it's all userland
08:08:06  <jxson_>the data binding seems like the thing most people claim to have value who really like angular
08:11:22  <jxson_>substack: this is cool
08:11:44  <substack>one thing I need to figure out is a good way to attach this stuff to a router
08:12:05  <substack>just so I can put that in the examples, not that I plan on baking that into the core of it
08:13:48  <substack>jxson_: and the second example does combined server<->client rendering even!
08:17:32  <jxson_>hmm, yeah it seems the router would add some extra complexity to the example if you use something like single-page.
08:17:48  <jxson_>I wonder if there would be a simple way to just show how the router would work without getting too comlex
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08:25:09  <substack>jxson: I think most of the value that frameworks provide is in showing how to do things for people who are unsure about how to start
08:25:32  <substack>so a simple example that includes a router could really help with that
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09:15:13  <dominictarr___>https://www.flickr.com/photos/dominictarr/sets/72157643633617973/
09:16:21  <dominictarr___>In melboune right now, and just realized that melbourne was also where the my cyberhobo phase began... I came here first on my way to the first nodeconf! Now, it's the start of phase 2.
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09:34:11  <dominictarr___>substack: on a recumbent bicycle!
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15:57:45  <pkrumins>i'm in bali indonesia
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16:16:29  <dominic_>pkrumins: sweet!
16:16:54  <pkrumins>our investor invited me to hang out with him
16:17:01  <pkrumins>our = browserling
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18:09:02  <niftylettuce_>Just released Draftling (took 2 days to build) https://draftling.com/?t=1396977386494#[email protected]:1396977375401
18:09:40  <niftylettuce_>had to go with the '-ling', couldn't get draftsha.re (".re" is strict for EU residents only), "draftshare.com" taken, and getdraftshare.com was too long :(
18:10:03  <niftylettuce_>pkrumins: ^
18:10:12  <niftylettuce_>paul_irish: ^
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19:28:47  <mafintosh>thlorenz: I'm gonna try to do a spike on your issue, https://github.com/mafintosh/tar-stream/issues/14 this weekend.
19:28:58  <thlorenz>mafintosh: awesome :)
19:29:06  <thlorenz>do you thinkg it's doable?
19:30:25  <mafintosh>yeah - might end up in a seperate module though (as a beginning anyway)
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19:31:05  <thlorenz>mafintosh: that'd also allow me to make dockerify-github-repo to return streams instead of functions that return streams
19:31:35  <thlorenz>right now they need to be functions since the streaming starts even though I'm not streaming the result out on the other end
19:31:57  <thlorenz>but w/ the requested change the streams would be truly lazy
19:41:57  <mafintosh>thlorenz: wouldn't you be able to do that now if you changed https://github.com/thlorenz/dockerify/blob/master/index.js#L114 to just be a PassThrough?
19:42:19  <thlorenz>mafintosh: no cuz the extract stream already activates
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19:43:18  <thlorenz>mafintosh: cuz this line is called immediately https://github.com/thlorenz/dockerify/blob/master/index.js#L24
19:43:31  <thlorenz>and once on('data') hooks up things start flowing
19:43:46  <thlorenz>*on('entry')
19:44:20  <thlorenz>mafintosh: so I'm gonna wait for you to do some magic :)
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20:02:16  <mafintosh>thlorenz: i'll try :) but if the `out` stream in dockerify was a PassThrough then it wouldn't emit any data until someone starts reading from it since it would be streams2.
20:03:16  <thlorenz>mafintosh: interesting, but shouldn't that have worked out of the box when used with node 0.10?
20:03:49  <thlorenz>anyhoo at least I have that as backup then, but I'm counting on you to come through with that transform API :P
20:11:29  <mafintosh>thlorenz: oh, through is actually through2 - so yeah doh.
20:12:05  <thlorenz>mafintosh: a bit confusing I guess :)
20:12:09  <mafintosh>thlorenz: i finally got what you mean now - you loose the 'entry' events in the current setup
20:12:24  <thlorenz>mafintosh: yep
20:14:17  <mafintosh>In the worst case I could do on('data') like setup where entries won't be emitted until you attach an on('entry') handler
20:14:41  <thlorenz>mafintosh: that would work, but why not just emit 'data' instead to be compat?
20:14:53  <thlorenz>it'd be considered an objectMode stream
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23:07:15  <jjjohnny>dominic_: the takeaway from that article is the the protocol is not really about currencies or money
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23:09:20  <jjjohnny>it's a "distributed ledger"
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23:43:10  <dominic_>jjjohnny: that is a good point - it's really just a globally replicated linked list
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23:43:44  <dominic_>that is even more general than "ledger"
23:43:53  <dominic_>maksimlin: hey! I'm in melbourne!
23:44:15  <maksimlin>dominic_: Welcome !!
23:44:35  <maksimlin>did you just fly in today ?
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23:46:09  <dominic_>maksimlin: I got in yesterday
23:46:17  <maksimlin>dominic_: I think you brought the wellies weather with you ;-)
23:46:59  <dominic_>yes, it does seem like that.
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23:48:14  <maksimlin>dominic_: are you at the cssconf today? I'm working today so I'll only be there tomorrow and prob Fri - can't wiat for your talk tomorrow, has your hardware worked out ok ?
23:48:24  <dominic_>hmm, how do I know where C libs are being looked for?
23:48:43  <maksimlin>dominic_: you mean running gcc ?
23:48:48  <dominic_>maksimlin: no, I'm working on my talk in the hotel. I pitched a fairly ambitious one
23:48:51  <dominic_>maksimlin: yes
23:49:15  <maksimlin>I think the path is set by the -L param
23:50:37  <maksimlin>dominic_: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Directory-Options.html
23:50:55  <dominic_>hmm, It's saying it can't see libgif.so.6 (runtime error) but it's in /usr/local/lib
23:51:29  <maksimlin>dominic_: oh hang you mean when you run a exe you have compiled then
23:54:25  <maksimlin>dominic_: or if you mean gcc can't find it thats strange if you have it on your gcc cli - in the past I've jsut usually used http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config/
23:54:48  <maksimlin>pkg-config will just fill in the right names and paths for you
23:56:50  <dominic_>maksimlin: okay I got it to work - I just copied from /usr/local/lib to /usr/lib/
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23:58:47  <maksimlin>dominic_: well thats another way to do it! :-) sorry been a *long* while since I've done any serious c dev work - I'll leave you to it
23:59:04  <dominic_>maksimlin: I had to manually install libgif5 because I am using a computer my friend gave me because my laptop got stolen and I don't have time to update the OS because I have a talk tomorrow!
23:59:29  <dominic_>compounding fail. it's actually working now though.