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03:54:07  <hij1nx>substack: what are you currently using for loadbalancing?
03:54:27  <hij1nx>i noticed the last commit to bouncy was 7 months ago
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04:00:31  <substack>hij1nx: I'm using bouncy for all my stuff
04:00:43  <substack>there haven't been any commits because it works fine
04:01:45  <substack>I don't subscribe to the death march model of software where anything without a commit in the last 3 months is abandonware
04:01:49  <substack>software can be finished
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04:31:04  <mikolalysenko>check out this module: https://github.com/mikolalysenko/surface-nets
04:31:11  <mikolalysenko>haven't pushed it to npm yet, but it is almost ready
04:31:16  <mikolalysenko>just need to write a few more tests
04:35:33  <guybrush>wow that is pretty awesome!
04:36:57  <mikolalysenko>if you ever need to plot a 4d implicit voxel model, this module should work for you
04:37:06  <mikolalysenko>or whatever comes after voxel...
04:37:08  <substack>really cool
04:37:15  <mikolalysenko>sample -> pixel -> voxel -> ????
04:38:19  <substack>what about a game like minecraft with a 3d voxel projection of a higher dimensional space?
04:38:39  <mikolalysenko>haha, I think that has been tried before, and it was super confusing
04:38:44  <substack>where you've got to exploit and infer properties of the other dimensions to solve complex (pun) puzzles
04:39:14  <mikolalysenko>sounds like it might be fun! (or at the very least you'll make the front page of r/math or programming)
04:39:19  <guybrush>hmm i wonder if that would work somehow with dynamic points? i mean without having to run it again, rather link it somehow?
04:39:34  <mikolalysenko>you can mesh slices of ndarrays
04:39:42  <mikolalysenko>so if you want chunks, just split your mesh into pieces
04:39:43  <substack>coming up with fun gameplay dynamics is the hard part
04:40:17  <mikolalysenko>might be enough to just do some sort of sokoban thing
04:40:24  <mikolalysenko>or maybe that traffic puzzle game
04:41:38  <mikolalysenko>substack: check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBoY6s-Fhw
04:45:16  <substack>I'm not sure what to make of that.
04:45:40  <substack>it seems more like just swapping out a single axis in 3-space for a 4th
04:46:27  <mikolalysenko>well, you have to take some creative liberties with how you visualize 4d space I guess...
04:50:22  <mikolalysenko>oddly enough this whole exercise came out of a project to render fonts in webgl...
04:50:52  <mikolalysenko>but! I hope after this I will not have to write another isosurface library for awhile
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11:44:31  <pkrumins>nooo
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12:46:43  <jesusabdullah>ogd: check it out, it's shitty_wzrd.in http://boxjs.com/
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14:21:16  <ogd>jesusabdullah: haha ruby developers
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15:05:12  <juliangruber>ogd: there's no policy for that at segmentio, i put code there if it makes sense bc coworkers are likely to touch it too, or it took me a lot of time to write and segment should get the credit. all the experimental stuff i for sure put on my account + the stuff i work on in my free time
15:05:51  <juliangruber>ogd: we're using component at segmentio and I think the components i wrote are on npm too
15:07:09  <juliangruber>ogd: i'm mostly backend atm too, ianstormtaylor did most of the frontend for our new debugger
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15:15:24  <mikolalysenko>is there anyway to make a dependency "optional"
15:15:43  <mikolalysenko>something like: "try installing this native library, but if the build fails no sweat"
15:17:11  <mikolalysenko>here is my situation: I want to use node-canvas, but only if the system supports it. if not, I am ok falling back to some dumber method
15:17:29  <mikolalysenko>also for browserify distributions I don't need that dependency and can safely ignore it
15:17:42  <mikolalysenko>one option I am considering is forcing the users to pass a canvas to the module...
15:17:52  <mikolalysenko>but it is a bit messy
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15:42:16  <juliangruber>mikolalysenko: there's https://github.com/dominictarr/canvas-browserify
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15:48:36  <mikolalysenko>ah, I see
15:48:37  <mikolalysenko>nice!
15:48:45  <mikolalysenko>that is perfect for what I want to do
15:48:56  <mikolalysenko>and I learned about optionalDependencies, which is a great thing!
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15:56:55  <mikolalysenko>why are all the priority queue libraries for node.js terrible?
15:57:05  <mikolalysenko>take a look at this: https://github.com/qiao/heap.js/blob/master/src/heap.coffee#L86
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15:57:32  <mikolalysenko>doesn't that defeat the whole point of trying to do O(log(n)) queries/updates?
15:58:16  <juliangruber>time to write your own^^
15:58:19  <mikolalysenko>and it is the same everywhere else. I don't understand why you would even bother with a heap in the first place, might as well just use a sorted array and splice into it
15:58:31  <mikolalysenko>(if you are doing linear scans/copies everywhere)
15:58:35  <juliangruber>does anyone in here have real experience with domains?
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16:07:56  <mikolalysenko>this one looks ok: https://github.com/gaye/fibonacci-heap
16:08:15  <mikolalysenko>or at least it has the right idea
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16:11:19  <mikolalysenko>uh oh, nevermind: https://github.com/gaye/fibonacci-heap/pull/2
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16:41:32  <ogd>juliangruber: ahh makes sense, thanks for answering! I have been wondering lately about different approaches to sponsored open source
16:42:27  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: A developer is waiting in the queue for explorer/11.0
16:50:39  <juliangruber>ogd: i'm doing closed source too
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17:26:46  <jjjohnny>moved processing to an iframe, quality much improved
17:26:58  <jjjohnny>broke some features :\
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18:27:16  <mikolalysenko>I just had a somewhat blasphemous idea:
18:27:32  <mikolalysenko>what about using something like namecoin to host packages in a distributed environment?
18:27:51  <mikolalysenko>that is use namecoin/whatever to sign the version of a package
18:28:04  <mikolalysenko>so you could have a totally distributed package manager
18:29:49  <substack>mikolalysenko: have you looked at feross's webtorrent?
18:29:55  <mikolalysenko>not yet
18:30:23  <substack>bittorrent in your browser including bittorrent-sync over webrtc
18:30:33  <mikolalysenko>that is really awesome
18:30:59  <substack>with plans for a client that will bridge both networks so you can sync/download content from the regular bittorrent from the web
18:31:17  <mikolalysenko>cool!
18:31:41  <mikolalysenko>I was actually thinking about something a bit different, specifically solving the package authorization problem
18:31:53  <mikolalysenko>the idea would be you host the packages anywhere, but use namecoin to sign them
18:33:52  <mikolalysenko>or maybe store a link to the module in the namecoin table
18:34:07  <mikolalysenko>(this idea is a bit half baked)
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20:11:31  <juliangruber>Raynos woah nice you're working with uber now?
20:11:48  <Raynos>yep
20:11:58  <Raynos>fulltime node :)
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20:55:26  <mikolalysenko>cairo is a fantastica library and all, and bezier splines are a great idea, but I am not sure what to make of this image: http://cairographics.org/examples/
20:55:30  <mikolalysenko>is it supposed to be a joke?
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21:12:18  <jjjohnny>mikolalysenko: it's no vocoded reading of the gettysburg address...
21:12:41  <jjjohnny>substack: trumper is confusing
21:12:47  <jjjohnny>trumpet
21:13:07  <jjjohnny>for changing an attribute anyhow
21:13:09  <substack>it's just streams in streams
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21:13:32  <mikolalysenko>jjjohnny: haha, touche
21:14:05  <mikolalysenko>if you have a better idea for how to demonstrate vocoding, I'll take a pr/suggestion
21:14:27  <mikolalysenko>I just used gettysburg address because it was free and recognizable
21:14:31  <jjjohnny>mikolalysenko: they are both technically complex examples ;^)
21:14:47  <jjjohnny>made simple (presumably)
21:14:50  <jjjohnny>substack: https://gist.github.com/NHQ/10424073
21:14:53  <mikolalysenko>that is true
21:15:00  <jjjohnny>i get no reading in stdout
21:15:52  <substack>jjjohnny: you created a writeStream and never closed it
21:17:06  <jjjohnny>ok i added stream.end(), no change
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21:19:27  <jjjohnny>substack: the confusion anyway is that I create streams and don't pipe them or anything
21:19:51  <jjjohnny>i like hyperstream for that, but can't use it to update attributes
21:20:52  <substack>hyperstream can set attributes
21:21:46  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 41]
21:22:58  <jjjohnny>thanks for that
21:23:05  <substack>jjjohnny: do you have a meta tag with id="id"?
21:23:10  <substack><meta id="id">
21:23:15  <substack>is what you've got for a selector
21:23:17  <jjjohnny>substack: not yet :\
21:23:25  <jjjohnny>lol
21:23:27  <jjjohnny>but
21:23:46  <substack>jjjohnny: your code works for me
21:24:16  <jjjohnny>fuck me how did this happen. my index.html is empty!
21:24:56  <jjjohnny>i think o'erwrote it testing :~~~p
21:25:29  <substack>git show HEAD:index.html > index.html
21:26:16  <jjjohnny>HAWT
21:30:06  <jjjohnny>substack: do you think it's weird that if I don't have an tag that matched, that I get no output?
21:30:38  <substack>did you not get any output because the input file was empty?
21:30:56  <jjjohnny>yeah but then I fixed that
21:31:16  <jjjohnny>and without a meta tag id="id" i got no output lemme try again
21:31:33  <substack>I get output when there isn't a matching tag
21:31:49  <jjjohnny>ok, I did too in try again
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21:37:01  <jjjohnny>in some ways I am the best open source user
21:37:04  <jjjohnny>ever
21:48:52  <jjjohnny>b/c I never post issues. if there is an issue, me move on (or backwards)
21:49:35  <jjjohnny>i rarely experience issues
21:49:46  <jjjohnny>except with phonegap
21:49:54  <jjjohnny>them bananas is shit
21:51:44  <jjjohnny>drinking beer at work is so much better when your office is a cafe and you buy the beer yourself.
21:52:30  <jjjohnny>keep your packages lunch, Earl of Startup, I'll charge you the hour I lunch at my normal rate, and buy my own food
21:53:43  <jjjohnny>yesterday I forgot my cafe hacking work etiquette
21:54:36  <jjjohnny>when I start spending more time looking at women, i'm supposed to move to the next spot
21:57:12  <jjjohnny>is it okay to talk about attraction of the opposite sex, anymore, if that attraction is regular cys/hetero?
21:57:51  <jjjohnny>im trynna start a startup here and want to attract the best possible media attention
22:01:44  <misterinterrupt>you can do the right thing and tweet which cafe has the overflow of attractiveness that you need to leave
22:02:02  <misterinterrupt>#creepalert ?
22:02:41  <jjjohnny>misterinterrupt: its now about that, its about timing attention patterns in the work :P
22:02:58  <misterinterrupt># creepalert I am removing myself from <location>
22:03:05  <jjjohnny>lol
22:03:28  <misterinterrupt>that was a response to your question about hetero chat
22:04:07  <misterinterrupt>i figured you can as long as you go the extra mile to fit yourself cleanly into an easily recognizable stereotype
22:04:41  <misterinterrupt>but, regardless of my sarcasmisms, attention patterns are good to watch !
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22:06:26  <jjjohnny>why only the other night i danced with a sexy <person gender=female sex=o_O>
22:06:54  <misterinterrupt>fancy that!
22:07:50  <misterinterrupt>(club || rave || houseShow)
22:08:10  <misterinterrupt>else if( limo("back") )
22:09:18  <jjjohnny>lounge house footwerk latin
22:09:56  <jjjohnny>OH "yeah but this is only place they treat [the music] as gospel"
22:11:13  <jjjohnny>groove n
22:11:28  <misterinterrupt>sounds awesome!
22:11:36  <misterinterrupt>I love footwerk
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22:15:25  <jjjohnny>do u like... jook
22:15:30  <misterinterrupt>YARRR
22:15:54  <misterinterrupt>I love Machinedrum a ton actually
22:16:05  <misterinterrupt>he kinda does those styles with a mix of jungle too
22:16:16  <misterinterrupt>but I dig all those roots!
22:16:32  <misterinterrupt>pun tendered
22:21:46  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 21]
22:22:25  <misterinterrupt>heres a questionnnnnn:: is there something that compiles sound drivers into node?
22:23:19  <misterinterrupt>or whatever
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22:23:58  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 184.106.106.66 (dev-ie7-1)
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23:10:30  <substack>jjjohnny: https://eastbaybikeparty.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/ebbp-presents-the-rhythm-ride-april-2014/
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23:46:28  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 166.78.114.172(dev-ie11-2)
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