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01:49:47  <shama>So weird, anyone else seeing this? Go to http://www.npmjs.com/jobs/, cmd + f, type in "remote", search and then hit escape... redirects you to: https://npm-inc.squarespace.com/config
01:49:52  <shama>^ isaacs
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01:55:18  <shama>nevermind, its a feature lol http://help.squarespace.com/guides/how-do-i-disable-the-esc-key-login
01:56:50  <jjjohnny>shama: now try the konami code on npmjs.org
01:58:20  <shama>jjjohnny: it gave me 99 lives
02:02:41  <jjjohnny>shama: it used to give a cat for a cursor
02:03:11  <shama>aww no cat now
02:06:37  <jbenet>I feel like a plumber
02:06:46  <jbenet>all i've been doing recently is making and connecting pipes.
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04:09:40  <jjjohnny>where is dominic living tonight
04:09:50  <jbenet>https://github.com/jbenet/node-pipe-segment-scope-codec scoping stream codecs
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08:09:35  <jbenet>substack is there a stream viz? like something for debugging that replaces core stream lib with a magical library that renders all the streams in a UI so you can see what is going on?
08:10:19  <jbenet>woah http://thlorenz.github.io/stream-viz/
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08:48:01  <domanic>substack, jjjohnny okay I'm here but am stuck in SFO until the bart starts again!
08:48:35  <substack>domanic: there is a bus you can take
08:49:14  <domanic>that goes all the way to oakland?
08:49:58  <substack>you can transfer in sf at market and 9th
08:50:03  <substack>the transbay bus runs all night
08:50:32  <substack>and then you can take the NL from 12th st in oakland to the dimond
08:50:41  <substack>or you can wait if you don't want to take a bus adventure
08:50:41  <substack>OH
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08:52:04  <substack>domanic: http://oaklandwiki.org/Carless_in_Oakland
08:52:21  <substack>see the "Getting to Airports Really Early"
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08:54:12  <substack>the "Getting to SFO Early" part documents my experiences getting to sfo hella early
08:54:16  <substack>just reverse the directions
08:55:44  <domanic>substack, does the bus have a bikerack?
08:55:51  <domanic>it says the san jose one does
08:57:10  <substack>domanic: it might!
08:57:44  <substack>most of the ac transit / samtrans buses do
08:58:22  <domanic>hmm, I'll have a look, otherwise, it's only 2 more hours until bart starts again
08:58:36  <substack>yeah might not save you very much time just to wait for bart
08:58:56  <substack>but bart often starts up later than it says it does
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09:11:14  <jjjohnny>domanic: oh shit!
09:12:09  <domanic>ah well, at least the wifi works
09:12:09  <jjjohnny>domanic: activate bikemobile!
09:12:41  <domanic>jjjohnny, unfortunately I don't have a kayak attachment otherwise I'd totally just ride there
09:13:57  <jjjohnny>MORE THAN A FEW TIMES HAVE I IMAGINES AN AMPHIBIOUS BITCH
09:13:58  <LOUDBOT>EVEN THE TOURISTS ARE POOPING ON TURK STREET NOW
09:14:08  <jjjohnny>great type johnny
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09:15:06  <substack>LOUDBOT: twitlast
09:15:07  <LOUDBOT>http://twitter.com/LOUDBOT/status/483901602130964481 (substack/##turtles)
09:15:16  <jjjohnny>good call
09:16:13  <jjjohnny>domanic: when u hittin hackistan?
09:18:02  <jjjohnny>domanic: im jus saying if you're gonna do SF daytime I'll come out and meet u
09:18:03  <domanic>jjjohnny, probably 5am
09:18:09  <jjjohnny>ok
09:18:30  <jjjohnny>domanic: gonna leave the front door unlocked
09:18:41  <substack>domanic: I'll be up
09:18:50  <substack>I just had 2 french presses full of coffee so
09:19:19  <jjjohnny>lol
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09:27:08  * substackhacking on modules for browserify-adventure
09:27:15  <substack>instead of you know, working on browserify-adventure directly
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10:43:44  <jjjohnny>how you do
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11:00:46  <mafintosh>jbenet: PR looks good. Checkout my comment :)
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11:25:40  <substack>boom: https://github.com/substack/adventure
11:37:24  <guybrush>with leveldb is it save to use multiple threads to read (not write) from the same database?
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11:41:37  <jesusabdullah>I haven't written any cool side stuff lately :( though I *did* submit a bugfix to pkgcloud!
11:42:26  <substack>jesusabdullah: build a nodeschool!
11:42:37  <jesusabdullah>Naw I got a list of things
11:42:45  <jesusabdullah>A big list of things
11:42:53  <jesusabdullah>I just gotta find the time and energy to focus on them
11:42:57  <jesusabdullah>outside $work
11:43:05  <jesusabdullah>don't get me wrong I like my job a lot, we're doing some cool stuff
11:43:10  <jesusabdullah>and I got to play with vagrant for a week
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11:43:33  <jesusabdullah>but I'd like to write that reflection layer thing for express and my toy odm
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12:24:58  <jesusabdullah>isaacs: HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU'RE OLDER THAN YOU'VE EVER BEEN
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17:33:19  <thlorenz>hey Raynos using your stuff in one of my apps https://github.com/thlorenz/mechanic/blob/master/routes/index.js -- so far so dandy :)
17:34:00  <thlorenz>only child router didn't really work, but I can do without that
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17:38:02  <isaacs>jesusabdullah: AND NOW IM EVEN OLDER!
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18:34:42  <jbenet>domanic let's hang out
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19:01:36  <thlorenz>hey Raynos how can I stream data with send-data?
19:02:18  <terinjokes>isaacs: this is clearly a mistake in the universe
19:05:11  <isaacs>terinjokes: what is?
19:05:23  <terinjokes>isaacs: you being even older
19:05:24  <isaacs>terinjokes: that canada has the same birthday as me?
19:05:34  <isaacs>terinjokes: oh, actualy, yeah, it is a joke. i'm aging backwards, actually.
19:05:42  <isaacs>terinjokes: benjamin button up in this shit
19:05:54  <terinjokes>a canadian benjamin button
19:05:56  <terinjokes>oh, ha
19:05:58  <isaacs>j/k that'd be terrifying and even worse than aging for real
19:06:28  <terinjokes>what's worse… benjamin button or flowers for algernon
19:06:34  <isaacs>it'd be pretty rad to be like a 70-something year old mind in a 18-year-old body, though
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19:19:42  <Raynos>thlorenz: I added bug fixes to child router. should work. feel free to open issue
19:20:03  <Raynos>thlorenz: no streaming in send data
19:20:03  <thlorenz>ok, I'll give it another try if I need it, thanks
19:20:07  <thlorenz>:(
19:20:15  <thlorenz>can't use it then
19:20:23  <Raynos>thlorenz I used mikeals filed to stream files
19:20:36  <thlorenz>I mean that's a nono in node to gzip and hold the result in memory
19:20:50  <thlorenz>but what about generated content?
19:21:23  <Raynos>thlorenz: I just buffer and send blobs
19:21:26  <thlorenz>we should add a streaming interface, i.e. if I pass a stream to send() you should set up a pipeline through gzip all the way to the browser
19:21:41  <thlorenz>Raynos: don't buffer in node!
19:21:47  <Raynos>thlorenz: write a send-stream and add it to http framework
19:22:11  <Raynos>thlorenz: buffering is fine for small data. streams buffer 16kb anyway
19:22:18  <thlorenz>Raynos: good idea, but why not just extend the current send-data module?
19:22:41  <thlorenz>yes, but ppl will not know any better and send huge images like this
19:22:45  <Raynos>thlorenz: could extend it. I assume it's a non trivial change
19:22:50  <thlorenz>cool
19:22:55  <Raynos>thlorenz: noobs gonna noob.
19:23:10  <thlorenz>cuz if you wanna compete with frameworks you gotta make this more fool proof ;)
19:23:26  <thlorenz>IMO anyways - not sure what the target audience is
19:23:35  <Raynos>thlorenz: adding a send-data/stream is not a bad idea
19:24:07  <thlorenz>also we should add docs to POST in the router module (not obvious how to get at the post data)
19:24:33  <Raynos>npm install body
19:24:47  <thlorenz>well - not obvious from the docs ;)
19:24:57  <thlorenz>I just did the req.on('data' thing by hand
19:25:24  <thlorenz>send-data/stream needs to take a content type as well then
19:25:46  <thlorenz>Raynos: coming to nodeconf? - maybe we can hack this together real quick
19:31:39  <Raynos>thlorenz: yeah
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19:38:53  <thlorenz>awesome
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20:09:29  <jesusabdullah>thlorenz: remember how when I was looking for a job I just asked everyone I knew who was hiring? What would you do if you didn't know anyone?
20:10:21  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: I'd probably start hacking on OS projects until I knew some people
20:10:33  <jesusabdullah>What if food was becoming a concern
20:11:07  <thlorenz>I'd cover that with an intermediate job and hack on OS in the evenings
20:11:46  <jesusabdullah>yeah but how do you get the intermediate job?
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20:17:21  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 13, free: 54]
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20:26:30  <thealphanerd>jesusabdullah: you looking for a gig?
20:28:13  <jesusabdullah>thealphanerd: no, a friend :)
20:28:20  <thealphanerd>Ohhh
20:28:22  <jesusabdullah>I can only pull so many strings y'know?
20:28:31  <thealphanerd>We are hiring
20:28:33  <thealphanerd>at famo.us
20:28:39  <thealphanerd>depending on their experience
20:28:48  <thealphanerd>and their philosophical view of what we do :P
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20:42:40  <jesusabdullah>Cool thealphanerd I didn't know you were working at famo.us
20:42:52  <jesusabdullah>I actually don't know much about it unfortunately but I heard the demos were sick
20:42:55  <thealphanerd>I’m heading up the tools team with andrew
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20:43:04  <jesusabdullah>thealphanerd: Friend in question ^^
20:43:06  <thealphanerd>and as of today managing our release stuff
20:43:11  <thealphanerd>oh hai sly
20:43:13  <Sly>Ohai
20:43:13  <Sly>:D
20:43:16  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, you should talk
20:43:55  <jesusabdullah>NOW KISS
20:43:55  <LOUDBOT>WOW QUEENSLAND POLICE CRACKED P2P WITH TECHNOLOGY LAST WEEK!
20:44:02  <jesusabdullah>TECHNOLOGY YOU SAY
20:44:02  <LOUDBOT>CLOSE ALL THE BOOK STORES
20:44:43  <thealphanerd>so who am I goign to see this weekend at node conf?
20:44:50  <thealphanerd>and is anyone doing the node bots ting?
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20:57:44  <jesusabdullah>not I, thealphanerd
20:57:48  <jesusabdullah>I went to jsconf tho
20:58:16  <Sly>I haven't even been to a conf yet. lol.
20:59:42  <jesusabdullah>They're fun, unless you hate people and don't know anyone there
21:00:10  <Sly>I'm not a people hater unless they give me a reason to hate them.
21:00:18  <Sly>I'll talk to pretty much anyone, as long as they keep it civil.
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21:03:34  <thealphanerd>I like people!
21:03:42  <owen1>thealphanerd: i'll be there
21:03:50  <thealphanerd>!!!
21:03:53  <Sly>thealphanerd: me too.
21:04:07  <thealphanerd>my partner is going to be coming and is going to try to learn node
21:04:13  <owen1>put a #stackvm sign on your shirt so i'll be able to find u guys
21:04:42  <thealphanerd>I’ll wear grateful dead shirts all weekend
21:04:46  <thealphanerd>:P
21:06:47  <Sly>Ha. Grateful Dead. Brownie points.
21:07:00  <owen1>thealphanerd: for realz
21:07:30  <thealphanerd>I’ll be the guy who smells like the haight
21:07:44  <thealphanerd>wop wop wop
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21:17:06  <shama>ill be at nodeconf
21:17:21  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 38]
21:21:17  <thealphanerd>I’m trying to get a clone of npm running on a mac mini for the weekend
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21:38:30  <Raynos>isaacs: President of NPM. Best title ever
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21:39:58  <Sly>thealphanerd: I feel for ya. I had to do that for a conf before.
21:40:21  <thealphanerd>They mentioned lack of wifi / reliable internet
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22:30:42  <Sly>thealphanerd: that's exactly why I had to do it for the conf we had to do it for. They wanted a local NPM mirror.
22:31:30  <thealphanerd>yeah… I fiound a mac mini behind a building on stanford campus ready to go to the garbage
22:31:32  <thealphanerd>it was rescued
22:31:46  <thealphanerd>I spent way too much time getting it upgrade to 10.6.8 last night so I could get xcode + homebrew on there
22:32:07  <thealphanerd>finished up with it completely provisioned ready to deploy the couchdb instance
22:32:11  <Sly>I still haven't upgraded this iMac to 10.6.8. Should probably do that today.
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22:35:48  <Sly>Oh shit. I just noticed that TWC flipped the switch for residential IPv6. >:D
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22:43:26  <domanic>jbenet, yo! whats up?
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22:47:29  <domanic>pfraze, hey! I am now in the states
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22:59:45  <pfraze>domanic: awesome! whereabouts?
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23:02:49  <domanic>pfraze, I am currently in oakland
23:03:18  <pfraze>oakland, land of js
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23:03:54  <domanic>indeed! then going up to http://toorcamp.com/ and riding my bike to portland after that
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23:06:08  <pfraze>awesome, are you still heading to TX late july?
23:07:42  <domanic>ah, I'd need to sort that stuff out
23:07:50  <domanic>what are your rough plans
23:07:52  <domanic>?
23:08:18  <pfraze>I'm negotiating a job in austin right now which I'll be starting august 1, so I won't be doing any travelling
23:08:32  <pfraze>I'll also be moving at the same time, so it's a bit of a crazy period for me
23:09:03  <pfraze>that said, you're totally welcome to crash on the couch anytime
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23:11:42  <domanic>pfraze, oh no not a job!
23:12:00  <domanic>pfraze, your place in Austin?
23:12:02  <pfraze>haha yep, I'm sellin out
23:12:05  <pfraze>yeah
23:12:38  <domanic>aquehire?
23:12:50  <pfraze>nah, the normal kind
23:13:12  <pfraze>never managed to productize, though you're seeing the current iteration with searchlang
23:16:37  <domanic>I really like the idea of search lang
23:17:02  <domanic>if you made something that people who know how to do google could use, that would be pretty amazing
23:17:21  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 1, free: 19]
23:17:51  <domanic>and maybe plug in searchable things like ifttt does, that is more or less the idea, right?
23:18:02  <pfraze>yeah
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23:19:01  <pfraze>it's a long shot but seems worth trying. The real challenge will be, I think, minimizing how much you have to know about the underlying model
23:19:29  <pfraze>like you say, if it can be about as straightforward as googling, that's the win
23:21:21  <domanic>I guess you can search on the screen and in a datastructure too
23:22:46  <domanic>hmm, yeah, like in most applications (especially ones that use external apis) you spend much of the time adapting to their format
23:23:10  <pfraze>yeah. You can think of it as building a loadtime search corpus with the imports, then a runtime search corpus with the responded datastructures, both of which may map to widgets or data structures
23:25:06  <pfraze>yeah, if you can avoid having to know details of form, you can also write more generic expressions, since the expressions don't have to include detail-based manipulations
23:26:40  <pfraze>and maybe (very maybe) that could be generic enough to port search statements between contexts without changing them. "Use the controls" instead of "use the steering wheel" means the program applies to both planes and cars
23:27:43  <pfraze>(*earlier I said responded datastructures, shouldve said responded endpoints)
23:29:32  <ogd>domanic: where you @ ?
23:29:38  <ogd>domanic: me and mikolalysenko are about to head downtown
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23:30:11  <ogd>domanic: we are gonna go get tacos at Xolo
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23:32:16  <pfraze>ogd: was really sorry I cant make csvconf. Hope I can get up to oakland to say hi sometime
23:32:49  <pfraze>are you working at NPM, or are you fulltime on dat?
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