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01:36:34  <dimadima>substack: just noticed http://studio.substack.net/-/help; kudos for this, of all things, that you've made.
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02:04:39  <thlorenz>I won't be making it to the pre-conf, but could help remotely
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02:07:44  <substack>thlorenz: sure!
02:07:45  <substack>https://github.com/substack/browserify-adventure
02:08:00  <substack>the ones with ! haven't been implemented yet https://github.com/substack/browserify-adventure/blob/master/menu.json
02:08:09  <substack>I'm working on USING TRANSFORMS right now
02:08:47  <thlorenz>substack: I could do the Writing Transforms
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02:09:30  <substack>sure
02:09:41  <thlorenz>ok getting started ...
02:09:43  <substack>oh actually I'm planning a bit of a sequence with that one
02:10:04  <substack>it uses the algorithm for using transforms to factor it out into creating a transform for it
02:10:16  <thlorenz>substack: ah, ok I'll pick something else
02:10:26  <substack>you can also make something not on that list
02:10:28  <substack>those are just ideas
02:11:12  <thlorenz>do you think teaching ppl how to shim non commonJS stuff would be good?
02:11:40  <substack>absolutely!
02:11:50  <substack>you are the best equipped to write that level too
02:12:30  <thlorenz>cool I'll work on that then
02:13:09  <substack>here is briefly how adventure works: https://github.com/substack/adventure#tutorial
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02:29:27  <thlorenz>substack: none of these actually need to run in the browser right?
02:29:51  <thlorenz>so I need to fake out at least a window in order to do that shim problem
02:32:59  <substack>thlorenz: depends if you want it to run in the browser or not
02:33:09  <substack>check out the widget example for one that runs in a real browser
02:33:13  <substack>otherwise they can just run in node
02:33:32  <thlorenz>it's not really needed to run in the browser since I can check it with node (probably easier)
02:33:54  <substack>yes not terribly important if they actually run in the browser
02:33:58  <thlorenz>ppl just have to realize that it's important for the browser mainly (but that goes for all the problems ;) )
02:34:08  <thlorenz>cool
02:34:21  <substack>I already have the widget example that runs in a real browser so that should demonstrate the point
02:34:33  <thlorenz>ah cool even better
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03:09:16  <thlorenz>substack: I can't run anything :( when I verify all it prints is 'TAP version 13' and then hangs
03:09:32  <thlorenz>was trying to test my problem
03:09:45  <thlorenz>tried it for other problems -- same result
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03:14:53  <substack>thlorenz: do you have all the deps?
03:15:29  <thlorenz>yeah - currently linking your adventure{-verify} from github - hoping it will work
03:16:34  <substack>what if you `npm install -g browserify-adventure` ?
03:16:37  <substack>there is also a test suite
03:16:41  <thlorenz>still not working (not even beep boop)
03:16:49  <thlorenz>I did do the global install
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03:17:47  <thlorenz>substack: tests are passing except for the widget ones
03:18:41  <thlorenz>substack: gonna use tests to drive my stuff for now - at least I can make progress ;)
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03:26:27  <substack>thlorenz: how are you running browserify-adventure verify?
03:26:34  <substack>it expects input on stdin
03:27:20  <thlorenz>substack: ah , well I actually used your thing, so I did launch it, selected a problem then typed browserify-adventure run
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03:27:32  <thlorenz>or browserify-adventure verify
03:27:45  <thlorenz>both hangs (how is it gonna get input?)
03:27:48  <substack>browserify main.js | browserify-adventure verify
03:27:53  <substack>is how you run them
03:28:11  <thlorenz>ah, that makes sense actually
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03:38:54  <thlorenz>substack: btw things are working for me now (I had assumed it'd pick up main.js in current folder somehow)
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04:22:30  <thlorenz>substack: https://github.com/substack/browserify-adventure/pull/2
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06:14:10  <thealphanerd>eyo
06:16:04  <thealphanerd>substack: browserify-adventure!!!!
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07:04:46  <thealphanerd>Raynos: thanks for taking a peak!
07:05:23  <thealphanerd>do you think it is better to run with global versions of eslint / jscs rather than a local .bin?
07:05:29  <Raynos>thealphanerd: snipe code review
07:05:49  <Raynos>thealphanerd: inside a command in "scripts" `node_modules/.bin` is added to PATH
07:05:58  <thealphanerd> OH SHIT
07:05:58  <LOUDBOT>GOOD MORNING ALL YOU LOVELY PEOPLE!
07:06:02  <Raynos>thealphanerd: i.e. `npm i browserify` and `"build": "browserify foo"` just works
07:06:11  <thealphanerd>Raynos: do you like espresso?
07:06:23  <Raynos>thealphanerd: I prefer cappuchino
07:08:03  <thealphanerd>fair enough… we are packing stuff for the weekend :D
07:08:11  <Raynos>:D
07:08:24  <Raynos>you live with andrew ?
07:10:39  <thealphanerd>nope
07:10:45  <thealphanerd>Christina :D
07:10:49  <thealphanerd>you’ll get to meet her too
07:14:26  <thealphanerd>Raynos: snipe edits updated
07:14:27  <thealphanerd>thanks dude!
07:14:43  <Raynos>ah ok cool :)
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07:16:58  <thealphanerd>This definitely feels way lighter than the require.js + grunt stack
07:17:58  <Raynos>200%
07:23:20  <thealphanerd>such web scale
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07:37:15  <thlorenz>substack: are you gonna pull this? https://github.com/substack/browserify-adventure/pull/2
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15:24:31  <domanic>nathan7, politically the US is troubled, no denying that, but you should still visit to meet the people
15:24:54  <domanic>which is a different thing to the government (herein lies the problem...)
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15:37:04  <nathan7>domanic: yeah, I need to get a disposable laptop and shit though
15:43:04  <domanic>nathan7, um, unless I don't know something I don't think you are that much of a threat to national security
15:48:26  <nathan7>domanic: they can and will image and modify devices if they can separate them from you at border stations
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15:49:42  <domanic>nathan7, I should tell you the story about the time I made it into secondary screening
15:50:24  <nathan7>domanic: that sounds like fun
15:50:29  <domanic>I'm more relaxed about it because I know how incompetent they are
15:50:37  <domanic>nathan7, it was!
15:50:59  <domanic>basically like getting into trouble in high school... they try to scare you into confessing
15:51:28  <domanic>but they are just bluffing
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15:52:56  <domanic>dude was like, I have to search your computer... I give it to him but am like "you won't know how to work that"
15:53:11  <domanic>(it's linux with tiling wm + dvorak key layout)
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15:53:28  <domanic>2 minutes he comes back and asks "is this encrypted????"
15:53:39  <domanic>"no, that is just linux"
15:54:10  <domanic>he wants to see evidence that my story (speaking at conference + visiting people) is legit
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15:54:24  <domanic>so he's like, show me some emails etc
15:54:32  <domanic>but there is no wifi
15:54:43  <domanic>"this is a government building - THERE IS NO WIFI"
15:55:43  <domanic>we don't really make much progress... until I say, look, if you get me internet I can show you EVERYTHING you want to see.
15:56:05  <domanic>he goes off to find internet....
15:56:32  <domanic>5 minutes later calls me up and says: "you where telling the truth. you are free to go"
15:56:40  <substack>oakland city hall has free wifi
15:58:37  <domanic>the guy who questioned me was just doing his job, I would have been happy to share a beer with him, in another time and place
15:59:39  <domanic>but then I got past him... and thought I might actually make my connecting flight
15:59:48  <domanic>... but then I got to another guy...
15:59:58  <domanic>and this guy was going above and beyond
16:00:20  <domanic>he said "I know you convinced jamal back there, but I make him look like MR RODGERS!!!"
16:00:42  <domanic>this guy asked me all the same questions... except all he could do was search through my bag.
16:00:58  <domanic>he was basically like "what kind of person are you to have stuff like this?"
16:01:28  <domanic>"you have an apartment here don't you!?" "this is a week end bag!"
16:01:43  <domanic>uh, I have been travelling with this much stuff for 6 months
16:01:55  <domanic>and other such gems as:
16:02:29  <domanic>[looks down at my stuff strewn on his desk] "you are clearly a liberal"
16:02:31  <domanic>the
16:02:33  <domanic>then
16:02:42  <domanic>"what religion are you? are you PAGAN?"
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16:03:20  <domanic>I was too dumbfounded to say anything clever though
16:03:51  <domanic>but then he was like "well personally think you are here to work illegially" but then let me through anyway?!?!?!
16:04:41  <domanic>In hindsight I realized that I had this was all because I trasited zurich from dublin without going through immigration
16:04:52  <domanic>which triggered some red flags
16:05:22  <domanic>(I did that because my schengen time was running short...)
16:05:39  <domanic>but I have not had any problems at all since then
16:10:11  <domanic>nathan7, by all means, take a burner laptop... but you'll be disapointed when they don't search it
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16:22:53  <nathan7>domanic: I'll be pleased if they don't
16:22:59  <nathan7>domanic: it means I get to use it once more
16:23:22  <nathan7>domanic: I might just acquire a chromebook post-border or something
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18:06:14  <feross_>substack: browserify-adventure looks great!
18:06:28  <feross_>substack: i opened a few prs for small things
18:10:50  <substack>cool!
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18:32:32  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.57.171.229 (dev-ie6-2)
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20:22:31  <greweb>Hi
20:23:53  <greweb>what was that web service to "compile" a bundle? can't retrieve the link
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21:10:15  <nathan7>greweb: browserify cdn?
21:19:52  <greweb>nathan7: that's it thanks
21:20:25  <juliangruber>substack: that should work, right? echo 'console.log("BEEP BOOP")' | browserify | node
21:20:39  <juliangruber>the browserify bundle doesn't contain my code
21:20:50  <juliangruber>[email protected]
21:26:46  <juliangruber>nvm i'm opening an issue
21:27:59  <juliangruber>aaah `browserify -` it is
21:29:38  <guybrush>juliangruber: didnt know that, maybe it should be docummented in the readme? i cant find a hint about that
21:29:55  <juliangruber>guybrush: i saw it in the tests
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21:32:46  <guybrush>its definitely cool thing to know
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22:03:08  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 34]
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22:09:33  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 184.106.106.46(dev-ie8-1)
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