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00:11:04  <shama>"Which version would you like to install?" I don't know bower, the correct one.
00:16:18  <Raynos>wtf does that even mean
00:16:25  <Raynos>how can you know which one is correct
00:16:30  <Raynos>without auditing EVERYTHING
00:16:50  <owen1>guys, reply to his post.
00:17:07  <Raynos>shama: which twitter name is you ?
00:19:10  <Raynos>found it
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03:22:21  <chapel>substack or anyone that uses dnode, has it been used for browser to iframe rpc?
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03:27:45  <creationix>chapel: I don’t see why not
03:27:52  <creationix>I use something like for talking to workers
03:28:31  <creationix>back when I wrote smith for c9, I almost used dnode, but I didn’t like how it leaked memory at the time
03:28:50  <creationix>I think substack fixed the leak for node, but not sure about browsers
03:29:13  <substack>chrisdickinson: just read your streams post!
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03:31:52  <substack>creationix: yes, I could detect the presence of WeakMap in browsers but haven't done that yet
03:32:20  <substack>chrisdickinson: here is an easy fix if you want to start landing stream fixes https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7758
03:32:26  <creationix>chapel: also, depending on what you want to use it for, the leak might not be a problem
03:32:36  <substack>isaacs already gave it a glance-over
03:33:50  <creationix>substack: you wouldn’t happen to know what atom-shell is using for their IPC between node and blink?
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03:34:03  <substack>I'm not sure
03:34:13  <creationix>whatever it is, it seems really slow. I’m getting around 1500ms response times with a http server in the blink side
03:34:24  <substack>chrisdickinson: also, Duplex().wrap() and Transform().wrap() should proxy the .write() and .end() methods to ._write() and on('finish')
03:34:51  <chapel>thanks creationix
03:34:54  <substack>chrisdickinson: would your topic proposal handle forwarding errors to the next stream?
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04:33:00  <chrisdickinson>substack: ~ish, you would be able to pipe all errors on src to dest as data
04:33:33  <chrisdickinson>unsure if that's the best solution, ultimately; it'd be like a built-in "tee"
04:33:52  <substack>but if you could use it for error-forwarding that would be a really good use-case
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04:34:27  <substack>that's a big open problem with streams, since setting up error handlers for each intermediate stream is really verbose
04:34:41  <substack>or you can use a module like stream-combiner that does it for you
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04:35:41  <substack>chrisdickinson: what if I set up forwarding with a topic on stream `a` but then I pipe into `b` without setting a topic before forwarding to `c`?
04:36:24  <chrisdickinson>`a.pipe(b, {topic: "cats"}).pipe(c)`, essentially?
04:36:44  <substack>or a.pipe(b, { topic: 'cats' }).pipe(c).pipe(d)
04:36:49  <chrisdickinson>from b on, you're dealing with the "data" topic
04:36:58  <chrisdickinson>so, all cats become data going into b
04:37:03  <substack>oh they become data
04:37:13  <substack>seems kind of high-level for core
04:37:31  <substack>it looked like an event-forwarding mechanism
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04:38:45  <chrisdickinson>but! like you said, it might be too high level for core
04:40:35  <substack>juliangruber: https://github.com/substack/dataplex-hyperspace-example <-- what I've been building up to with all those streaming rendering libs
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04:41:02  <substack>but coming along
04:42:02  <chrisdickinson>(I agree that it's cumbersome to have to add error handlers at each stage in the pipeline)
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06:55:19  <substack>https://github.com/dominictarr/level-post/pull/3 should fix level-live-stream for custom encodings
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07:50:56  <ogd>hughsk_: yes will be, not sure where
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07:57:34  <domanic>ogd, hey - do I remember correctly that your family lives near to astoria? (which is where I am now!)
08:03:48  <hughsk_>ogd: cool, wanna try http://www.yelp.com/biz/milch-und-zucker-berlin-2?
08:06:32  <ogd>domanic: south of newport
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08:06:52  <ogd>hughsk_: sure
08:08:07  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: At least 10 people waiting in the queue for free servers! (Waiting: 10)
08:10:28  <domanic>ogd, oh bummer - that is a bit out of my way
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08:26:24  <domanic>nathan7, ohohoh so you flew business class
08:26:32  <nathan7>domanic: yeah
08:26:37  <nathan7>domanic: it's awesome
08:27:28  <domanic>you know you are now officially part of the bourgeois
08:27:41  <nathan7>totes
08:27:46  <nathan7>when was I not?
08:27:54  <domanic>all street cred you might have had... lost
08:28:26  <nathan7>like, seriously, I pay like twice as much for everything because I get to be lazy and bathe in luxury and shit
08:28:34  <nathan7>wallow in luxury
08:28:49  <domanic>no that is not the reason
08:29:03  <domanic>the reason is because you are better than every one else
08:29:09  <domanic>because you deserve it!
08:29:39  <nathan7>I have more money, I pay more for things, and then capitalism does this thing
08:29:48  <nathan7>where I get awesomer shit
08:30:47  <domanic>yes, and other people do shit for you. that is how it works.
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09:44:49  <hughsk_>ogd: https://github.com/lakenen/browser-workshopper
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11:53:25  <substack>domanic: astoria, cool!
11:54:00  <domanic>substack, yeah just rolled into town this afternoon!
11:54:23  <substack>I used to go camping with my family at fort stevens all the time when I was younger
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11:55:20  <substack>with lots of dangerous ruins you can climb over
11:56:49  <domanic>substack, oh I remember you telling me about that! I'm guessing it's on the coast
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11:58:54  <substack>domanic: also I fixed some things in level-post https://github.com/dominictarr/level-post/pull/3
11:59:12  <substack>should fix issues with custom key encodings in level-live-stream
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12:08:21  <domanic>I'll check this and merge it in the morning
12:08:29  <substack>sweet
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19:42:16  <substack>isaacs: the patch I made to node core Readable().wrap()
19:42:17  <substack>https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7758
19:42:22  <substack>so that it doesn't eat falsy values
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20:17:57  <Domenic>see also https://github.com/whatwg/streams/blob/perf-test-suite/reference-implementation/bench/params.js
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22:24:54  <terinjokes>substack: do you have a recommended way of gunzip'ing a hyperquest?
22:27:54  <substack>just pipe to zlib.createGunzip()
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22:28:18  <terinjokes>substack: sometimes the server doesn't send it as gzip
22:28:27  <terinjokes>and I can't tell until the response event
22:28:31  <substack>ah
22:29:26  <terinjokes>and while I understand the reasons why hyperquest won't want to do that black magic, I've got some interest in localizing my http code
22:29:27  <terinjokes>;)
22:30:55  <substack>could build another module on top to do the fancies
22:31:07  <substack>like gunzipping, deflating, and redirects
22:31:24  <terinjokes>i'm effectively doing that, but my streamsfoo in this regard is a bit sad
22:31:48  <substack>you could use stream-splicer
22:31:50  <terinjokes>zlib.createUnzip will actually handle both gunzipping and inflating
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22:40:05  <substack>function hquest () { var hq = hyperquest.apply(null, arguments); var pipeline = splicer([ hq ]); hq.on('response', function (res) { if (res.headers['content-encoding']) pipeline.unshift(zlib.createUnzip()) }); return pipeline }
22:40:09  <substack>something like that
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