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| <chapel> | substack or anyone that uses dnode, has it been used for browser to iframe rpc? |
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| <creationix> | chapel: I don’t see why not |
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| <creationix> | back when I wrote smith for c9, I almost used dnode, but I didn’t like how it leaked memory at the time |
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| <creationix> | I think substack fixed the leak for node, but not sure about browsers |
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| <substack> | chrisdickinson: just read your streams post! |
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| <substack> | creationix: yes, I could detect the presence of WeakMap in browsers but haven't done that yet |
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| <substack> | chrisdickinson: here is an easy fix if you want to start landing stream fixes https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7758 |
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| <creationix> | chapel: also, depending on what you want to use it for, the leak might not be a problem |
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| <substack> | isaacs already gave it a glance-over |
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| <creationix> | substack: you wouldn’t happen to know what atom-shell is using for their IPC between node and blink? |
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| <creationix> | whatever it is, it seems really slow. I’m getting around 1500ms response times with a http server in the blink side |
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| <substack> | chrisdickinson: also, Duplex().wrap() and Transform().wrap() should proxy the .write() and .end() methods to ._write() and on('finish') |
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| <chapel> | thanks creationix |
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| <substack> | chrisdickinson: would your topic proposal handle forwarding errors to the next stream? |
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| <chrisdickinson> | substack: ~ish, you would be able to pipe all errors on src to dest as data |
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| <chrisdickinson> | unsure if that's the best solution, ultimately; it'd be like a built-in "tee" |
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| <substack> | but if you could use it for error-forwarding that would be a really good use-case |
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| <substack> | or you can use a module like stream-combiner that does it for you |
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| <substack> | chrisdickinson: what if I set up forwarding with a topic on stream `a` but then I pipe into `b` without setting a topic before forwarding to `c`? |
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| <chrisdickinson> | `a.pipe(b, {topic: "cats"}).pipe(c)`, essentially? |
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| <substack> | or a.pipe(b, { topic: 'cats' }).pipe(c).pipe(d) |
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| <chrisdickinson> | from b on, you're dealing with the "data" topic |
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| <chrisdickinson> | so, all cats become data going into b |
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| <substack> | oh they become data |
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| <substack> | seems kind of high-level for core |
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| <substack> | it looked like an event-forwarding mechanism |
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| <chrisdickinson> | but! like you said, it might be too high level for core |
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| <substack> | juliangruber: https://github.com/substack/dataplex-hyperspace-example <-- what I've been building up to with all those streaming rendering libs |
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| <substack> | but coming along |
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| <ogd> | hughsk_: yes will be, not sure where |
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| <domanic> | ogd, hey - do I remember correctly that your family lives near to astoria? (which is where I am now!) |
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| <hughsk_> | ogd: cool, wanna try http://www.yelp.com/biz/milch-und-zucker-berlin-2? |
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| <ogd> | domanic: south of newport |
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| <ogd> | hughsk_: sure |
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| <domanic> | ogd, oh bummer - that is a bit out of my way |
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| <domanic> | nathan7, ohohoh so you flew business class |
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| <nathan7> | domanic: yeah |
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| <nathan7> | domanic: it's awesome |
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| <domanic> | you know you are now officially part of the bourgeois |
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| <nathan7> | totes |
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| <nathan7> | when was I not? |
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| <domanic> | all street cred you might have had... lost |
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| <nathan7> | like, seriously, I pay like twice as much for everything because I get to be lazy and bathe in luxury and shit |
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| <nathan7> | wallow in luxury |
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| <domanic> | no that is not the reason |
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| <domanic> | the reason is because you are better than every one else |
| 08:29:09
| <domanic> | because you deserve it! |
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| <nathan7> | I have more money, I pay more for things, and then capitalism does this thing |
| 08:29:48
| <nathan7> | where I get awesomer shit |
| 08:30:47
| <domanic> | yes, and other people do shit for you. that is how it works. |
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| <nathan7> | domanic: yes :D |
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| <hughsk_> | ogd: https://github.com/lakenen/browser-workshopper |
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| <substack> | domanic: astoria, cool! |
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| <domanic> | substack, yeah just rolled into town this afternoon! |
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| <substack> | I used to go camping with my family at fort stevens all the time when I was younger |
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| <substack> | it's an old army base turned state park from wwii |
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| <substack> | with lots of dangerous ruins you can climb over |
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| <domanic> | substack, oh I remember you telling me about that! I'm guessing it's on the coast |
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| <substack> | domanic: also I fixed some things in level-post https://github.com/dominictarr/level-post/pull/3 |
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| <domanic> | substack, sweet this looks good. |
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| <domanic> | I'll check this and merge it in the morning |
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| <substack> | sweet |
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| <rowbit> | substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 184.106.106.46 (dev-ie8-1) |
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| <rowbit> | substack, pkrumins: A developer is waiting in the queue for explorer/8.0 |
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| <rowbit> | substack, pkrumins: A developer is waiting in the queue for explorer/8.0 |
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| <isaacs> | substack: what is this thing i gave a glance over? |
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| <rowbit> | substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.57.171.229 (dev-ie6-2) |
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| <substack> | isaacs: the patch I made to node core Readable().wrap() |
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| <substack> | https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7758 |
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| <substack> | so that it doesn't eat falsy values |
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| <Domenic> | othiym23: isaacs: would love some help coming up with test scenarios for the streams perf tester at https://github.com/whatwg/streams/issues/120 |
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| <Domenic> | see also https://github.com/whatwg/streams/blob/perf-test-suite/reference-implementation/bench/params.js |
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| <rowbit> | substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 50.57.174.105(dev-ie8-2) |
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| <terinjokes> | substack: do you have a recommended way of gunzip'ing a hyperquest? |
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| <substack> | just pipe to zlib.createGunzip() |
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| <terinjokes> | substack: sometimes the server doesn't send it as gzip |
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| <terinjokes> | and I can't tell until the response event |
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| <substack> | ah |
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| <terinjokes> | and while I understand the reasons why hyperquest won't want to do that black magic, I've got some interest in localizing my http code |
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| <terinjokes> | ;) |
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| <substack> | could build another module on top to do the fancies |
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| <substack> | like gunzipping, deflating, and redirects |
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| <terinjokes> | i'm effectively doing that, but my streamsfoo in this regard is a bit sad |
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| <substack> | you could use stream-splicer |
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| <terinjokes> | zlib.createUnzip will actually handle both gunzipping and inflating |
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| <substack> | function hquest () { var hq = hyperquest.apply(null, arguments); var pipeline = splicer([ hq ]); hq.on('response', function (res) { if (res.headers['content-encoding']) pipeline.unshift(zlib.createUnzip()) }); return pipeline } |
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| <substack> | something like that |
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