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15:16:17  <ogd>mikolalysenko: in case you wanted to chime in https://github.com/bionode/bionode/issues/9
15:16:20  <ogd>substack: also o/
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15:26:46  <chapel>ogd: it is always insane to me when people push for amd on the server in node :(
15:27:13  <ogd>chapel: hah yea agreed. i think we just need better marketing :)
15:27:45  <chapel>well regardless of browserify vs amd, the fact that someone would use amd in node just is asinine
15:28:39  <chapel>browserify I think has great marketing, and probably the one missing spot (not really missing but something people want that browserify doesn't do) is async module loading
15:29:08  <chapel>not missing in the sense that it needs it, just that people make that a deal breaker
15:33:43  <ogd>ahhh yea good point
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16:15:38  <mikolalysenko>ogd: I started writing a response to that but it grew a bit long
16:15:43  <mikolalysenko>maybe it is too ranty, not sure
16:15:52  <mikolalysenko>I will post it in a secret gist and share it here for some discussion
16:18:30  <mikolalysenko>https://gist.github.com/mikolalysenko/d4fa7b2214849912d2d7
16:18:43  <mikolalysenko>This obviously needs work
16:20:02  <mikolalysenko>my subtle/subversive intention was to try to get them to admit that they want to build a megaframework to enslave all their users
16:20:33  <mikolalysenko>kind of like how dictators in the middle east take over all basic services and utilities, so that the local populace becomes indebted to them
16:20:42  <mikolalysenko>and if they are ever toppled, then the rest of society crumbles
16:24:01  <mikolalysenko>re async browserify: I think it is technically possible, though like async loading it has always seemed dubious to me
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16:24:20  <mikolalysenko>but I bet we could browserify browserify with an appropriate fs wrapper and make this happen
16:24:47  <mikolalysenko>using something like a leveldb fs module with a fallthrough to xhr when files are missing
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16:34:54  <chapel>mikolalysenko: I agree
16:35:11  <chapel>though I feel they may just back up and go "thats too serious man, we just want to have fun here"
16:37:50  <Wraithan>mikolalysenko: well said
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16:58:14  <mikolalysenko>Wraithan: thanks, though tone needs work
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16:59:28  <jjjohnny_>we've all ranted into a github issue about using browserify/npm ''/
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17:18:46  <Wraithan>mikolalysenko: yeah, I guess I should have said, "I strongly agree with your content" but yeah, the tone isn't too bad until the last line or so
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19:33:36  <creationix>isaacs: I think js-git is now to the point that it could replace your git dependency in npm
19:33:49  <creationix>I can even clone from a web page if I enable CORS using a browser extension
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19:34:58  <creationix>the way the git-fetch-pack protocol works, you get to inspect the remote refs before asking which you want. So we could do custom logic on the refs and match the tags against a semver range and then do a shallow clone of just that tag
19:36:09  <creationix>and if you had an old version of the package already cached locally, you could tell that commit hash to the clone protocol and it would only download the new objects that have been added since
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