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| <ogd> | mikolalysenko: in case you wanted to chime in https://github.com/bionode/bionode/issues/9 |
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| <ogd> | substack: also o/ |
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| <chapel> | ogd: it is always insane to me when people push for amd on the server in node :( |
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| <ogd> | chapel: hah yea agreed. i think we just need better marketing :) |
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| <chapel> | well regardless of browserify vs amd, the fact that someone would use amd in node just is asinine |
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| <chapel> | browserify I think has great marketing, and probably the one missing spot (not really missing but something people want that browserify doesn't do) is async module loading |
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| <chapel> | not missing in the sense that it needs it, just that people make that a deal breaker |
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| <ogd> | ahhh yea good point |
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| <mikolalysenko> | ogd: I started writing a response to that but it grew a bit long |
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| <mikolalysenko> | maybe it is too ranty, not sure |
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| <mikolalysenko> | I will post it in a secret gist and share it here for some discussion |
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| <mikolalysenko> | https://gist.github.com/mikolalysenko/d4fa7b2214849912d2d7 |
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| <mikolalysenko> | This obviously needs work |
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| <mikolalysenko> | my subtle/subversive intention was to try to get them to admit that they want to build a megaframework to enslave all their users |
| 16:20:33
| <mikolalysenko> | kind of like how dictators in the middle east take over all basic services and utilities, so that the local populace becomes indebted to them |
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| <mikolalysenko> | and if they are ever toppled, then the rest of society crumbles |
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| <mikolalysenko> | re async browserify: I think it is technically possible, though like async loading it has always seemed dubious to me |
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| <mikolalysenko> | but I bet we could browserify browserify with an appropriate fs wrapper and make this happen |
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| <mikolalysenko> | using something like a leveldb fs module with a fallthrough to xhr when files are missing |
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| <chapel> | mikolalysenko: I agree |
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| <chapel> | though I feel they may just back up and go "thats too serious man, we just want to have fun here" |
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| <Wraithan> | mikolalysenko: well said |
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| <mikolalysenko> | Wraithan: thanks, though tone needs work |
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| <jjjohnny_> | we've all ranted into a github issue about using browserify/npm ''/ |
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| <Wraithan> | mikolalysenko: yeah, I guess I should have said, "I strongly agree with your content" but yeah, the tone isn't too bad until the last line or so |
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| <creationix> | isaacs: I think js-git is now to the point that it could replace your git dependency in npm |
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| <creationix> | I can even clone from a web page if I enable CORS using a browser extension |
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| <creationix> | the way the git-fetch-pack protocol works, you get to inspect the remote refs before asking which you want. So we could do custom logic on the refs and match the tags against a semver range and then do a shallow clone of just that tag |
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| <creationix> | and if you had an old version of the package already cached locally, you could tell that commit hash to the clone protocol and it would only download the new objects that have been added since |
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