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01:25:30  <Marak>so it turns out, you can pipe stuff to curl. this is very useful. i put together a few live examples. http://hook.io/curl
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01:26:15  <Marak>binary data particularly
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16:23:17  <gorhgorh>ping @substack
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16:25:02  <gorhgorh>when do you arrive in paris and do you need/want accomodation (ie a fully packed parisan flat full of hackers) ?
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19:32:56  <thealphanerd>hey substack are you around? We are trying to make an api client that can run on both the server / browser and have notice that requiring in http includes an extra 100k or so in our minified payload… blargh. Do you have a best practice or very tiny lib for doing rest stuff?
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20:01:53  <substack>thealphanerd: https://www.npmjs.org/package/nets
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20:31:04  <thealphanerd>thanks substack
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21:18:51  <thealphanerd>ogd: thanks for putting together nets… my favorite kind of module that does so much without doing anything
21:18:55  <substack>very taoist
21:18:59  <substack>無為
21:19:01  <dguttman>anyone know what’s going on here: http://requirebin.com/?gist=775f71b638503eb17820
21:19:18  <dguttman>hyperquest / event-stream / through is swallowing the error somehow
21:19:22  <dguttman>I can’t figure it out
21:20:30  <dguttman>substack?
21:22:58  <substack>dguttman: I would just use through or through2 directly
21:23:08  <substack>I don't know that exceptions get emitted as errors
21:23:26  <substack>you can just this.emit('error', new Error('whatever'))
21:24:27  <dguttman>substack: problem was that it was swalling all errors in the app after that point
21:24:33  <dguttman>*swallowing
21:26:02  <dguttman>happens with through2: http://requirebin.com/?gist=0340a5ff7ed37638c608
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21:36:48  <dguttman>ogd: do you still do streaming JSON parsing in the browser? is hyperquest + JSONStream the way to go?
21:37:32  <ogd>dguttman: ive been using eventsource
21:37:40  <ogd>dguttman: or websockets
21:38:02  <kriskowal>in TaoScript, 0 == 1/0
21:38:30  <dguttman>ogd: right on, was just considering websockets
21:38:36  <dguttman>I’ll take a look at eventsource, thanks
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22:49:46  <yoshuawuyts>Just casually leaving this here -- https://github.com/yoshuawuyts/noop2
22:51:54  <terinjokes>yoshuawuyts: thanks
22:52:14  <terinjokes>i would suggest that you give an example to the idea presented in the "why?" section
22:52:56  <terinjokes>also, shields.io… "null/month"?
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22:55:44  <yoshuawuyts>terinjokes: yeah, it does that when no downloads have occurred yet
22:56:03  <yoshuawuyts>might have to polish the example a little though :P
22:59:35  <terinjokes>yoshuawuyts: yea, just seems like a strange default :/
23:00:27  <yoshuawuyts>it does nothing
23:00:39  <yoshuawuyts>nothing at all
23:00:51  <terinjokes>i meant the badge
23:00:53  <terinjokes>not noop2
23:00:59  <yoshuawuyts>oh, haha
23:01:00  <yoshuawuyts>lol
23:01:05  <yoshuawuyts>yeah, it's weird like that :c
23:01:26  <terinjokes>i couldn't find the server code for the images
23:10:56  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: man, I've been waiting for that module forever :D
23:12:01  <yoshuawuyts>joepie91_: lololololol
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23:15:26  * joepie91_is kinda excited for squatconf
23:20:09  <yoshuawuyts>oh yeah, when is it
23:20:23  <yoshuawuyts>wait, I have internet
23:20:26  <yoshuawuyts>I can explore on my own
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23:21:39  <joepie91_>hehe
23:21:43  <joepie91_>15 nov, though :)
23:21:57  <joepie91_>so in a week, basically
23:22:19  <yoshuawuyts>oh god
23:22:36  <yoshuawuyts>wait, it's on a saturday :o
23:22:49  <joepie91_>yep
23:23:08  <yoshuawuyts>I could travel there from amsterdam...
23:23:14  <yoshuawuyts>:3
23:23:32  <hughsk>yoshuawuyts: do it!
23:23:45  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: take a megabus
23:23:50  <joepie91_>if you're already in amsterdam it's even cheaper
23:23:55  <joepie91_>(I have to travel from Dordrecht)
23:23:59  <joepie91_>basically 23 euro each way :P
23:24:02  <yoshuawuyts>oh shoot!
23:24:10  <yoshuawuyts>I have to now
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23:24:34  <joepie91_>annoyingly, the megabus to Paris doesn't go through Rotterdam
23:24:39  <joepie91_>and train to Amsterdam is expensive :(
23:25:01  <yoshuawuyts>yeah it is :(
23:25:02  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: http://nleu.megabus.com/JourneyResults.aspx?originCode=110&destinationCode=113&outboundDepartureDate=14%2f11%2f2014&inboundDepartureDate=16%2f11%2f2014&passengerCount=1&transportType=-1&concessionCount=0&nusCount=0&outboundWheelchairSeated=0&outboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&inboundWheelchairSeated=0&inboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&outboundPcaCount=0&inboundPcaCount=0&promotionCode=&withReturn=1
23:25:05  <yoshuawuyts>but lol, you live in dordt?
23:25:06  <yoshuawuyts>haha
23:25:07  <joepie91_>yep
23:25:08  <yoshuawuyts>^___^
23:25:48  <joepie91_>(don't take a night bus btw, you will regret it)
23:26:24  <yoshuawuyts>why's that?
23:26:28  <yoshuawuyts>(was planning to, haha)
23:26:45  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: well, it's dead quiet because most people try to sleep (and fail) so you can't idly talk to random people on the bus
23:26:57  <joepie91_>they're not really sleep-able buses to begin with, sleeping in them isn't very comfy
23:26:59  <joepie91_>(even if sitting is)
23:27:15  <yoshuawuyts>yeah, but double night buses means I don't need to book a hostel for the night
23:27:16  <joepie91_>and you're likely to get woken up in the middle of the night for some random stupid passport check
23:27:18  <joepie91_>even within EU
23:27:28  <yoshuawuyts>work a dayjob, so got to be back by monday morning :P
23:27:37  <joepie91_>hmm
23:27:45  <joepie91_>you'd need to grab a night bus from fri -> sat then anyway
23:27:57  <joepie91_>though return trip could just be on sunday then if accomodation can be arranged by conf org
23:28:03  <joepie91_>which supposedly was being worked on
23:28:15  <yoshuawuyts>hahahaha
23:28:17  <yoshuawuyts>I love this
23:28:20  <joepie91_>relatedly, don't expect the wifi to work, but the power works great :P
23:28:24  <joepie91_>(in the bus)
23:28:38  <yoshuawuyts>I'll just cache all the npms
23:28:44  <joepie91_>heh
23:28:49  <joepie91_>yeah, I've been considering the same thing
23:28:55  <joepie91_>I already have a local instance of devdocs on my laptop..
23:29:03  <joepie91_>(which was a pain to set up, but that aside)
23:29:14  <yoshuawuyts>haha
23:29:20  <joepie91_>installing NPMs over megabus wifi is very... hit or miss
23:29:26  <nathan7>hey joepie91_!
23:29:29  <nathan7>long time
23:29:29  <joepie91_>ohai
23:29:40  <nathan7>you know me with a different name, from different times
23:29:46  <joepie91_>yeah, I figured from your realname :)
23:29:59  <nathan7>^_^
23:30:32  <nathan7>You're coming to squatconf?
23:30:42  <joepie91_>also, yoshuawuyts, supposedly there's a mobile provider in NL that does free international roaming, any idea which one that could be?
23:30:46  <joepie91_>nathan7: planning to, yes
23:30:48  <nathan7>awesome
23:30:53  <joepie91_>got an email from genjix
23:30:54  <nathan7>small world [=
23:30:55  <yoshuawuyts>lebara?
23:31:00  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: nope
23:31:02  <yoshuawuyts>though that's pretty shitty
23:31:03  <joepie91_>I have Lebara :P
23:31:04  <nathan7>genjix… rings a bell
23:31:05  <yoshuawuyts>haha
23:31:11  <joepie91_>they don't do free international roaming
23:31:14  <joepie91_>just dirt cheap international calls
23:31:19  <nathan7>buy a Lebara SIM in FR
23:31:21  <joepie91_>data is expensive as hell though, like with all prepaid providers
23:31:25  <yoshuawuyts>joepie91_: maybe tele2
23:31:26  <joepie91_>nathan7: oh, they operate in FR as well?
23:31:31  <nathan7>joepie91_: just about everywhere
23:31:35  <joepie91_>heh
23:31:41  <joepie91_>anyway, I'm mostly really looking for data roaming
23:31:47  <joepie91_>but I'm not sure that's financially possible
23:31:50  <joepie91_>because I don't want a contract
23:31:50  <nathan7>at the very least everywhere with a significant immigrant population
23:32:03  <joepie91_>I know that Three in the UK does it on a per-month basis, but their international roaming is pretty limited still :/
23:32:10  <joepie91_>no NL, for example
23:32:49  <nathan7>Three is nice
23:32:49  <joepie91_>right now I just have a free 250MB/mo data SIM from my home ISP and that's it :P
23:33:00  <joepie91_>and that doesn't include roaming, just data within NL
23:33:01  <joepie91_>(XS4ALL)
23:33:05  <nathan7>I was quite annoyed to discover that Three.ie and Three.co.uk aren't really the same company
23:33:13  <nathan7>just free roaming between the two
23:33:19  <joepie91_>nathan7: they're owned by the same HK corp, are they not?
23:33:36  <nathan7>joepie91_: yeah, but if you go to a .ie Three shop they'll tell you they can't help you
23:33:41  <joepie91_>ah :/
23:33:44  <joepie91_>yeah, that sucks
23:33:46  <nathan7>they did cut my SIM for me, but that's about it
23:33:52  <joepie91_>heh, well that's something at least
23:33:54  <joepie91_>I liked Three in the UK though
23:34:09  <joepie91_>guy where I was staying used his Three SIM as wifi AP for the entire house
23:34:18  <joepie91_>worked disturbingly well for a mobile connection
23:34:28  <joepie91_>that was London, though, apparently their reception is a bit shit everywhere else
23:35:05  <joepie91_>anyway, I guess I'll just have to deal with the Megabus wifi / spotty conference wifi
23:35:07  <joepie91_>:P
23:38:02  <yoshuawuyts>joepie91_: what do you think I should do, take the 10.30 or 23.30 on sunday?
23:38:40  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: if you can, always pick the day bus
23:38:53  <yoshuawuyts>fair point
23:38:54  <joepie91_>there's lots of interesting people on megabus trips (because it's so cheap, probably) so it's much more fun when you actually get to talk to people
23:38:55  <joepie91_>:p
23:39:02  <yoshuawuyts>haha, never been :o
23:39:07  <yoshuawuyts>:D
23:39:09  <joepie91_>plus you won't have the person behind you complaining about the light from your laptop, heh
23:39:16  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: travelled on a megabus a few times now, it's quite nice
23:39:21  <joepie91_>nicer than the Thalys anyway
23:39:28  <joepie91_>(that's rather disturbing in itself..)
23:40:08  <joepie91_>went Rotterdam -> Paris by Thalys a while ago, then Paris -> London by Megabus, then London -> Rotterdam by Megabus... and more recently back and forth to London by Megabus again
23:40:15  <yoshuawuyts>hahaha
23:40:19  <joepie91_>Thalys is like you step into a graveyard :|
23:40:22  <yoshuawuyts>oh man, but going by bus to london is pretty shitty
23:40:24  <joepie91_>that really deadly cold silence
23:40:27  <yoshuawuyts>at night at least
23:40:32  <joepie91_>yoshuawuyts: at night, yes
23:40:36  <joepie91_>during daytime, it's very doable
23:40:39  <joepie91_>just bring enough water :P
23:40:42  <yoshuawuyts>yeah, so true
23:40:43  <yoshuawuyts>oh yeah!
23:40:45  <yoshuawuyts>and food
23:40:47  <yoshuawuyts>o.O
23:40:55  <joepie91_>and make sure you're not on the rental buses that Megabus sometimes uses when they're overbooked
23:40:59  <joepie91_>because those have so much less legroom
23:41:03  <joepie91_>and no power sockets
23:41:09  <joepie91_>lol
23:41:14  <joepie91_>(learned that one the hard way)
23:41:25  <yoshuawuyts>oh yeah, how do I get money to the conf?
23:41:56  <yoshuawuyts>the site is pretty vague about that, haha
23:41:59  <yoshuawuyts>^__^
23:42:06  <joepie91_>but basically, the regular Megabuses are really nice, plenty legroom even for me (and I'm like 1.93m), usually even enough space to comfortably work on a laptop, (UK + USB) power socket, wifi that occasionally works
23:42:15  <joepie91_>etc
23:42:27  <yoshuawuyts>woah
23:42:29  <joepie91_>(so, bring a converter if you go by Megabus)
23:42:30  <yoshuawuyts>that's goood
23:42:35  <joepie91_>yep, surprisingly good
23:42:39  <joepie91_>much better than in the US, apparently
23:42:43  <yoshuawuyts>haha
23:42:45  <yoshuawuyts>or eurolines
23:42:52  <joepie91_>yeah, I hear a lot of mixed things about Eurolines
23:43:01  <joepie91_>yet they're still a price bracket higher than Megabus...
23:43:14  <joepie91_>or well, they are when you book last-minute
23:43:44  <joepie91_>was looking at a trip to Italy by Eurolines a while ago, prices ranged anywhere between 30 euro and 90 euro one-way
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23:49:24  <yoshuawuyts>sooooo, I'm going to squatconf now
23:49:27  <yoshuawuyts>how do I get a ticket, haha
23:49:30  <yoshuawuyts>how do I
23:49:31  <yoshuawuyts>anything
23:50:20  <gorhgorh>you wont have a ticket
23:50:30  <gorhgorh>cause there isn't any
23:50:36  <gorhgorh>=)
23:50:58  <joepie91_>heh
23:51:02  <joepie91_>gorhgorh: I'll be coming, btw
23:51:03  <joepie91_>:p
23:51:06  * jbenetchanged nick to goddammitwhytim
23:51:09  <joepie91_>(Sven Slootweg == me)
23:51:22  <gorhgorh>\o/
23:51:35  * goddammitwhytimchanged nick to jbenet
23:52:36  <gorhgorh>joepie91_ from when to when ?
23:53:06  <gorhgorh>14-16th ?
23:54:11  <joepie91_>gorhgorh: that's my intention, yeah
23:54:12  <joepie91_>hold on
23:54:39  <joepie91_>gorhgorh: I intend on taking the day Megabus from Amsterdam: http://nleu.megabus.com/JourneyResults.aspx?originCode=110&destinationCode=113&outboundDepartureDate=14%2f11%2f2014&inboundDepartureDate=16%2f11%2f2014&passengerCount=1&transportType=-1&concessionCount=0&nusCount=0&outboundWheelchairSeated=0&outboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&inboundWheelchairSeated=0&inboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&outboundPcaCount=0&inboundPcaCount=0&promotionCode=&
23:54:40  <joepie91_>withReturn=1
23:54:42  <joepie91_>...
23:54:43  <joepie91_>http://nleu.megabus.com/JourneyResults.aspx?originCode=110&destinationCode=113&outboundDepartureDate=14%2f11%2f2014&inboundDepartureDate=16%2f11%2f2014&passengerCount=1&transportType=-1&concessionCount=0&nusCount=0&outboundWheelchairSeated=0&outboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&inboundWheelchairSeated=0&inboundOtherDisabilityCount=0&outboundPcaCount=0&inboundPcaCount=0&promotionCode=&withReturn=1
23:54:45  <joepie91_>without interruption this time
23:54:48  <joepie91_>so that would be...
23:55:02  <joepie91_>arrival 19:00 on friday, departure 10:30 on sunday
23:55:13  <joepie91_>both at porte maillot
23:56:10  <joepie91_>I took the... I forgot what it's called, the express overground train thing? last time
23:56:15  <joepie91_>but afaik there's a metro station nearby
23:56:25  <joepie91_>so it should be easy for me to travel :p
23:56:43  <gorhgorh>yes really easy
23:57:17  <joepie91_>anyway, gorhgorh, you think some kind of accomodation can be arranged? I'll be bringing my own sleeping bag and pillow
23:57:28  <gorhgorh>we will have some room for you, solene got 5 place at her squat
23:57:32  <joepie91_>(and food)
23:57:46  <gorhgorh>and yes sleeping bags and stuff are needed
23:57:59  * rockbot__quit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:58:16  <joepie91_>alright
23:58:48  <gorhgorh>and the fist day we will probably all eat at the venue
23:59:02  <gorhgorh>I'll mail you details and contacts
23:59:08  <joepie91_>alright :)
23:59:38  <joepie91_>also, I'll mostly be bringing cold food stuff, snacks, maybe some fruit, etc.
23:59:53  <joepie91_>not particularly fond of carrying hot meal components in a bus :P