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| <hughsk> | substack: https://github.com/substack/labeled-stream-splicer/issues/4 unable to run browserify, might just need a republish? |
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| <substack> | on it! |
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| <hughsk> | awesome, thanks man :D |
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| <owen1> | #drama in the angular world - http://eisenbergeffect.bluespire.com/leaving-angular/ |
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| <substack> | thinking how to distribute hyperboot updates in hyperboot itself |
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| <thealphanerd> | could it be a git remote? |
| 06:23:11
| <substack> | no |
| 06:27:29
| <substack> | I've got an idea though |
| 06:27:44
| <substack> | I'll just check for the presence of a localStorage bootsrc entry |
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| <substack> | and then I can just have 2 kinds of versions in the versions.json file |
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| <substack> | plus this way I can allow users to load their own bootloaders |
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| <substack> | I've got the preboot script working, now I just need to push those bootloader updates through the version loader |
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| <ogd> | im leaving angular for go |
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| <thealphanerd> | ogd: DON’T DO IT… think about the traceur compiler |
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| <thealphanerd> | :P |
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| <substack> | I'm leaving coffeescript for perl |
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| <thealphanerd> | substack: http://www.livecodenetwork.org/iclc2015/ |
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| <bengl> | thealphanerd: yay for crypto! |
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| <thealphanerd> | :D |
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| <thealphanerd> | bengl: I just semi stalked you and realized you are in sf too! |
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| <thealphanerd> | and from ontario as well |
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| <thealphanerd> | woot! |
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| <bengl> | i think we've been over this before. i informed you of poutine at benders :) |
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| <thealphanerd> | OH shit |
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| <thealphanerd> | yes you did |
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| <bengl> | haha |
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| <thealphanerd> | and poutine js |
| 08:57:28
| <thealphanerd> | and I need poutine now |
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| <thealphanerd> | I have some clamato in my fridge :P |
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| <bengl> | clamato here isn't the same :( |
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| <thealphanerd> | true |
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| <thealphanerd> | but I can still make a killer caesar with it :D |
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| <bengl> | are you aware of a bar that used to be around 24th & mission called The Attic? |
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| <thealphanerd> | nope |
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| <thealphanerd> | I’m pretty new to the city |
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| <bengl> | went there about a year ago with a visiting quebecois friend, and absolut was pushing some cilantro vodka, so bartender made us cilantro caesars |
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| <bengl> | disturbingly good |
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| <thealphanerd> | hmmm |
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| <thealphanerd> | seems like I missed the boat |
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| <thealphanerd> | I recently started my journey to join the rhumbustion society |
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| <thealphanerd> | at smugglers cove |
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| <bengl> | ahh that place seems to always be the start of a good hangover for me, haha |
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| <bengl> | rum kills me |
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| <thealphanerd> | fair enoguh |
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| <bengl> | are you into whiskey? |
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| <thealphanerd> | most definitely |
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| <bengl> | try nihon lounge. the usual suspects from scotland, plus a sizeable collection of japanese and others. |
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| <thealphanerd> | will put it on the list! |
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| <thealphanerd> | time to crash for me |
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| <thealphanerd> | be well |
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| <bengl> | ditto |
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| <domanic> | oh man... look who just gave me a style pull request: https://github.com/dominictarr/explain-error/pull/2 |
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| <mafintosh> | domanic: gotta embrace to one style to rule all styles |
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| <domanic> | mafintosh, i support diversity in coding style |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | domanic_: sha384 is 64 bit like sha512 (And sha 512/t if we ever did those) |
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| <domanic_> | calvinmetcalf: right, my understanding is that 384 and 224 are just truncated versions of 512 and 256 |
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| <domanic_> | oh I see what you where refering too |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | yup with different seads |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | nist has also defined 2 others, but since openssl doesn't implement them node doesn't support them |
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| <domanic_> | calvinmetcalf: fixed |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | sweet |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | you left in a console log |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | domanic_: it looks good, though isn't it like 5am your time? shouldn't you go to bed? |
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| <domanic_> | calvinmetcalf: no I'm in europe now, to it's only 5pm |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | domanic_: ah makes more sense |
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| <domanic_> | calvinmetcalf: I'll be in the us for jsfest in december, and then home to nz finally after that. |
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| <domanic_> | substack: what if the wizard game was a voxel game but used a elements of all these shapes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_solid |
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| <joepie91_> | no idea where to ask this, but somebody probably knows here: when I pipe a response from the `request` library to a response in `express`, the headers are also piped (eg. Server and so on), but when I pipe a stdlib `http` client response to a `http` server response, they're not |
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| <joepie91_> | I've been looking around but can't figure it out - what is causing the header forwarding when using request/express? |
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| <joepie91_> | (node.js, obv) |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, that is not standard node streams. that is magic request streams |
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| <domanic> | if you piped it through a passthrough stream it would probably stop that. |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: okay - do you know with certainty whether the logic for this is in the `request` library? because I'd like to see exactly what it's doing behind the scenes, and I'm not sure where to start looking... |
| 21:56:14
| <joepie91_> | related question: are there any alternatives to `request` with better documentation, less undocumented magic, and perhaps a bit of a nicer API? |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, no but I remember mikeal talking about this back in the day. |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, [email protected]<2 or hyperquest |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: right, I'm looking for something maintained and more featureful than hyperquest :P |
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| <joepie91_> | I'd like to avoid writing my own if an alternative exists that I am simply not aware of |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, no I don't know. I think hyperquest is okay, though. |
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| <joepie91_> | bit too minimal for my tastes :) judging from the docs anyway |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, it doesn't have the request(opts, cb) api |
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| <domanic> | just streams... that would be easy to add though |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: well, that's the thing - I'm looking for stuff like (optional) body buffering, handling of multipart POST, and so on |
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| <joepie91_> | I just find myself struggling way more with requests API/docs than I should have to |
| 22:12:20
| <substack> | if you want to buffer a body, just pipe to concat-stream |
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| <joepie91_> | and I'd prefer not to have to plug in a billion modules myself over and over again for relatively common tasks |
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| <substack> | the problem with this line of thinking of bundling relatively common tasks |
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| <substack> | is that you end up with request |
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| <substack> | or you spend all your time fighting turf wars about what belongs and what doesn't belong |
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| <joepie91_> | substack: I find that the problem with request is not so much its size, as its usability - eg. python-requests does more or less the same thing(s), but is much much nicer to work with |
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| <substack> | they are related |
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| <joepie91_> | my point being that python-requests can apparently manage to do this and have a nice/usable API :P |
| 22:14:34
| <substack> | request wants to interface with existing apis but at the same time provide a lot of convenience |
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| <substack> | but those aren't really compatible ideas |
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| <substack> | you can either have a convenient but completely bespoke and non-interoperable interface |
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| <substack> | or you can have a simple interface that interoperates but does not have many features |
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| <substack> | because features come at the expense of interoperability |
| 22:17:39
| <substack> | convenience means that the tool will likely get in your way when you try to interoperate with an existing external libraries because convenience is always about creating shortcuts and workflows |
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| <substack> | and shortcuts and workflows are a kind of architecture |
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| <substack> | interoperable code requires complete buy-in with plugins or simple interfaces and control over how they are glued together |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, request used to be good. it just boated - <2 it was much simpler, but basically the same. |
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| <substack> | aside: gulp and grunt have exactly the same problem |
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| <substack> | and that is why people struggle so much to integrate other tools into those workflows |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: you mentioned a passthrough stream as a solution to keeping it from passing on headers... while this works to kill off all header streaming, any idea how I'd implement a custom passthrough-like stream that'd only pass on *certain* headers? eg. content-length and content-encoding |
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| <joepie91_> | (usecase: custom reverse proxy) |
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| <substack> | just handle that explicitly |
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| <joepie91_> | okay... how? :P |
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| <joepie91_> | I mean, I could probably manually set headers outside of the piping chain so to say |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, just set the headers you want manually |
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| <joepie91_> | but surely there's a neater way? |
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| <domanic> | or write a proxy stream module |
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| <joepie91_> | where "proxy stream module" does...? |
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| <domanic> | if it pretend to be a http streams (i.e. has writeHead and setHeader) then request would call those, i thin. |
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| <substack> | just do this: http.createServer(function (req, res) { var r = request(url); r.on('response', function (rs) { Object.keys(rs.headers).forEach(function (key) { res.setHeader(key, rs.headers[key]) }); rs.pipe(r) }) }) |
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| <substack> | or rather, rs.pipe(res) |
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| <domanic> | request just does duck type checking of the features ... it also checks for file streams... |
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| <joepie91_> | substack: I see, thanks |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: can you point me at the part of the code that does that? |
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| <joepie91_> | I've been looking for it for the past 30 minutes |
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| <joepie91_> | but can't seem to find it |
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| <joepie91_> | and I've run out of things to grep for :P |
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| <joepie91_> | also, substack: may I suggest using a pastebin for code examples? it's a lot easier to understand indented example code :) |
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| <domanic> | joepie91_, I don't know the code I just remember mikeal talking about it. |
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| <joepie91_> | (sprunge works if you don't like using a browser for that) |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: aha, thanks anyway, perhaps looking for writeHead will help me find it |
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| <domanic> | grep for writeHead? |
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| <domanic> | yeah |
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| <domanic> | or pass in a stream with writeHead, except it throws or logs a stacktrace |
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| <joepie91_> | domanic: nothing for writeHead outside of the tests/ dir (though it may just be github search sucking) |
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| <joepie91_> | already looked for setHeader before, couldn't find anything on that either... |
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| <brianc> | any suggestion as to what to do to have a Duplex stream in v0.8.x? anything like readable-stream exist for duplex stream? |
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| <thealphanerd> | substack: have you ever seen a problem with watchify not watching files? Have two different team members running into this problem :S |
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| <thealphanerd> | I’m chasing it down the stack to chokidar |
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| <thealphanerd> | I’ll let you know when I dig more up |
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