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| <feross> | just published https://github.com/feross/standard as an experiment |
| 02:18:28
| <feross> | I got tired of fixing code style after accepting PRs |
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| <feross> | Now I can just `npm install standard --save-dev` and change the "test" script to "standard && node my-normal-tests.js" |
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| <feross> | JavaScript Standard Style (i.e. Feross Standard Style) |
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| <jjjohnny> | feross: free et radical open source software |
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| <jjjohnny> | PARDON MY FRENCH JAVASCRIPT |
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| <ogd> | feross: EXCELLENT! |
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| <feross> | ogd: thanks :) |
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| <ogd> | feross: does it traverse require()'s |
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| <feross> | i just added it to webtorrent, bittorrent-tracker, and bittorrent-dht - hoping for good results! |
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| <ogd> | feross: or does it just do **/**.js |
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| <feross> | ogd: the latter, minus node_modules and .git folders |
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| <ogd> | cool, thats probably fine |
| 02:28:02
| <ogd> | in https://github.com/maxogden/dependency-check i follow relative requires |
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| <ogd> | could probably factor that out if you ever need it |
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| <feross> | ogd: nice, i should probably add that to my pre-publish flow |
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| <ogd> | feross: yea it saves me all the time |
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| <feross> | ogd: right now i just "npm prune" before "npm test" which approximates what dependency-check does |
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| <ogd> | ah yea |
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| <feross> | assuming i have proper test coverage |
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| <ogd> | feross: i was also thinking for generators standard style could be: function * name (arg1, arg2) { |
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| <ogd> | feross: also what do you think about disallowing anon functions |
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| <feross> | ogd: i haven't used generators enough yet to have an opinion |
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| <ogd> | feross: also i was talking to zeke at npm and he is interested in 'module collections' |
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| <ogd> | feross: and he suggested we just publish readmes to npm that have all the things in the colleciton in the readme. and maybe even in the package.json |
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| <feross> | ogd: by disallowing anon functions do you mean that you have to name all function expressions? |
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| <ogd> | feross: yea |
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| <ogd> | not sure if thats too extreme |
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| <ogd> | but honestly i wouldnt mind being forced to do it |
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| <feross> | ogd: yeah, i think it's a great idea! might be too extreme, would have to try it to know for sure |
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| <feross> | ogd: if i enabled that right now i'd have dozens of failures in my modules... |
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| <ogd> | also would be cool if we caught patterns like "you should not start a line with: ( [ {" |
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| <ogd> | feross: yea me too |
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| <feross> | ah, right. that's the ONE edge case you have to remember when you omit semicolons |
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| <ogd> | that and return\nfoo but nobody really does that i think |
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| <feross> | ogd: yeah, no one really does that one |
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| <ogd> | feross: anyway i was thinking it would be useful to compile a list of all the maintenance modules like standard and dependency-check and things like create-module or travisjs and put them in a module called e.g. maintenance-modules that is just a readme on npm |
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| <feross> | ogd: another one to add to the list is fixpack by henrik |
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| <ogd> | nice hadnt seen that |
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| <ogd> | ok im starting the list |
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| <feross> | less useful now that npm automatically alphabetizes deps in package.json for you |
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| <feross> | but sometimes comes in handy when you add new keys |
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| <feross> | ogd: cool, link? |
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| <ogd> | will be github.com/maxogden/maintenance-modules |
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| <feross> | btw, i just confirmed that `standard` catches the case where you start a line with ( or [ |
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| <ogd> | excellent |
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| <feross> | so you can omit semicolons without fear of edge cases! |
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| <ogd> | you should put that in the readme |
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| <feross> | ogd: good call! |
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| <ogd> | i link people to this response when they ask me https://github.com/maxogden/messages/issues/18 |
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| <ogd> | substack: what modules do you actively use to maintain/build modules that I should include in https://www.npmjs.com/package/maintenance-modules |
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| <feross> | ogd: readme updated https://github.com/feross/standard |
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| <mafintosh> | feross: if it wasn't for my fundamental disagreement with style guides, yours seem pretty reasonable, https://github.com/feross/standard |
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| <nickleefly> | I have an issue when using levelup and leveldown. https://github.com/rvagg/node-levelup/issues/306 |
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| <ogd> | step 1: google for the best magic hash function from stackoverflow. step 2: profit! |
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| <guybrush> | hey guys check out the new vivalidbrowser! according to their website they use browserify under the hood :D |
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| <guybrush> | *vivaldi browser |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: yeah, i hate style guides too. but i hate fixing people's code after a PR more! |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: the alternative is to make them update their PR which feels a bit mean since they took the time to contribute |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: and might scare them away or make them abandon the PR, in which case you have to fix it anyway |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: and it adds back-and-forth |
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| <feross> | btw, someone just published JavaScript Semi-Standard Style: https://github.com/flet/semistandard (for semicolon lovers) |
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| <feross> | One Semicolon for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne |
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| <ogd> | lol |
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| <mafintosh> | feross: i like this, https://github.com/feross/standard#what-you-might-do-if-youre-clever |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: thanks |
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| <feross> | mafintosh: i hate maintaining .jshintrc and .jscs files, even for my own text editor. i just want to drop in a module and be done! |
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| <feross> | but jshint is legitimately useful at catching bugs like unused variables that are actually typos that you'd hit in runtime |
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| <mafintosh> | feross: and i agree with your above points about contribution. can i fake inline ifs in your style? |
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| <mafintosh> | *make not fake |
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| <feross> | yep |
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| <feross> | mafintosh, ogd: btw, i'm open to relaxing the rules a bit if you add `standard` to one of your modules and find there's a lot of (not helpful) warnings |
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| <ogd> | feross: most of the errors are because i usually do function( instead of function ( |
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| <feross> | ogd: hmm, better consistent in this case, what do you think? |
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| <mafintosh> | ogd, feross hah was just about to write the same thing - gonna take some serious effort to avoid |
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| <ogd> | not sure how i feel about it yet |
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| <ogd> | i think biggest pain is switching now |
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| <ogd> | but then i will be consistent im sure |