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20:11:14  <substack>mafintosh: I submitted a proposal for them
20:11:24  <substack>mafintosh: I'll be in budapest before then, so the timing works out well
20:15:04  <mafintosh>substack: great - i'll do one aswell then
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20:55:00  <domanic>substack, this morning my shoeshine boy asked me what javascript framework he should use for his new startup
20:55:26  <domanic>I thought, that's it! getting all my money out of frameworks
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20:58:43  <substack>domanic: they're all conglomerating into one gigantic framework http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/05/microsoft-and-google-collaborate-on-typescript-hell-has-not-frozen-over-yet/
20:59:31  <substack>and https://twitter.com/djsmith42/status/573537623165243392
20:59:54  <domanic>substack, brilliant! bunch up into the old unused frameworks into one new framework to save money
21:00:16  <substack>frameworks are becoming too commodity, need to cut costs to protect margins
21:01:01  <domanic>oh no, I hope they don't layoff any framework developers!
21:01:32  <domanic>oh, well, they are welcome to come swing a pick in the module mines
21:01:53  <substack>the framework board will bring in a new CEO to make the rounds of layoffs to placate the framework shareholders
21:02:37  <substack>I just realized that frameworks vs modules are mostly a manifestation of parkinson's law
21:02:49  <substack>no wait, it was another aphorism-law
21:03:08  <domanic>conways law?
21:03:10  <substack>consulting the list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eponymous_laws
21:03:20  <substack>yes, conway
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21:07:05  <domanic>substack, I think there needs to be a parody twitter account that is a stock ticker (and dowjoneseque index) of javascript frameworks
21:07:22  <substack>it could be fed with google trends data
21:07:43  <domanic>and git commits and issues
21:08:03  <domanic>opened issues move the price down, closed issues move it up
21:08:13  <substack>another corrolary: to destroy web frameworks, you must first destroy the hierarchical organizations that produce them
21:08:26  <substack>probably also capitalism
21:08:52  <domanic>yes, most probably
21:10:59  <domanic>but until then, we have satire
21:11:44  <pfraze>austin is all about the frameworks. It's gonna be that way another five years at least
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21:50:01  <domanic>pfraze, that is just because of government subsidies that are keeping the framework bubble from bursting
21:50:06  <mikolalysenko>hanging out at the sudo room with some friends from madison
21:50:37  <domanic>but that is just gonna make it burst bigger later
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21:59:32  <domanic>pfraze, I'm gonna go take a walk, have hardly left this boat cabin for days
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22:00:02  <pfraze>domanic: ok stretch those sea legs
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22:36:34  <substack>mikolalysenko: right now? I'll be down there in a bit
22:36:43  <substack>gotta run some errands first
22:36:43  <mikolalysenko>yep!
22:36:49  <mikolalysenko>cool, we'll be here for a bit
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23:50:39  <substack>mikolalysenko: done with errands, heading over!
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23:51:18  <substack>mikolalysenko, hughsk: you can also come over to hearth in west oakland later for dinner, hacking, and hot tubbing
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23:54:03  <mikolalysenko>substack: hah that sounds fun!
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23:55:08  <hughsk>haha, nice. I'm catching up with some friends tonight, otherwise I would!
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