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00:45:45  <domanic>basically, irc is inconsistent
00:46:08  <domanic>you don't know if everyone successfully got what you said
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01:08:02  <rom1504>you just need to stay connected
01:09:38  <joepie91>rom1504: even then, messages can get lost :)
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01:10:47  <rom1504>I guess... but isn't that true for every communication protocol ?
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01:26:44  <joepie91>rom1504: no
01:26:56  <joepie91>any protocol using some kind of acknowledgement system can bypass that
01:26:58  <joepie91>but that's very noisy
01:27:03  <joepie91>IRC doesn't even guarantee inter-leaf delivery, though
01:27:16  <joepie91>if two servers split and relink, all the messages inbetween will have been lost
01:27:28  <joepie91>(other than on the leaf that the user was connected to)
01:27:34  <joepie91>to my knowledge, none of the server linking protocols guarantee delivery after netsplits
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04:33:36  <jjjohnny>basically
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10:42:21  <rom1504>joepie91: but since everybody is (or should be) using bouncer which are stable clients, and irc servers are mostly stable nowadays, there's no problem 99% of the time
10:42:27  <rom1504>*a bouncer
10:42:45  <rom1504>(bouncer or irssi/weechat in a screen)
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14:16:49  <jjjohnny>mmckegg: yo im having errs with web-midi
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14:52:39  <jjjohnny>well fuck it i can get it to work dealing with the API directly
14:52:43  <jjjohnny>can't
14:53:52  <jjjohnny>mmckegg: however, it doens't seem like web-midi uses the midi map iterator for port disco(very)
14:57:30  <jjjohnny>WTF is an "Unhandled Promise Rejection", and do I need anti-depressants for it?
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15:06:43  <yoshuawuyts>jjjohnny: think that means there's no `.catch()` clause at the end of a Promise chain or smth
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15:27:40  <jjjohnny>i bet promises were pushed cuz they can't optimize try/catch
15:28:09  <jjjohnny>#illuminati
15:28:41  <jjjohnny>one hacker posted http://daylabor.modulha.us
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17:39:36  <joepie91>rom1504: IRC servers are mostly stable? I wonder what networks you use :)
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17:51:01  <rom1504>well freenode doesn't netsplit very often...
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18:07:16  <gildean>also a netsplit doesn't always mean that one of the splitting sides has crashed, just that the connection was lost
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18:18:57  <joepie91>rom1504: it netsplits with some regularity
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18:19:21  <joepie91>gildean: that was never claimed
18:19:38  <rom1504>like once every 2 weeks ?
18:24:52  <joepie91>I noticed it once every few days
18:24:55  <joepie91>notice *
18:25:02  <joepie91>might be more often when I'm not looking
18:25:09  <joepie91>that counts as "with some regularity" to me
18:25:17  <joepie91>certainly not five nines :)
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19:37:32  <mmckegg>jjjohnny: you running chrome? What version? Was just using that module last week and was working.
19:48:13  <mmckegg>jjjohnny: sounds like a bug (due to an midi API change) that was fixed in [email protected]
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20:48:30  <jjjohnny>mmckegg: https://gist.github.com/NHQ/f650f7b61e8335f87a47
20:49:03  <jjjohnny>thats what I had to do
20:49:53  <jjjohnny>but anyway, I wasn't able to get the to recieve events from my synth
20:50:13  <jjjohnny>dont know if its my chrome or my synth
20:50:34  <jjjohnny>usually I have no problems with my synth using node-serialport
20:56:04  <mmckegg>jjjohnny: you have to iterate until you get to the port you want. You should do port.value.name
20:59:08  <mmckegg>jjjohnny: only other thing that comes to mind is midi input is broken on windows under current chrome stable.
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21:00:06  <jjjohnny>mmckegg: i only have inout size 1
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21:00:23  <jjjohnny>iter again and i get error
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21:01:32  <jjjohnny>altho it doesn't seem to change whether or not my synth is plugged in
21:01:42  <jjjohnny>the so-called input
21:03:38  <jjjohnny>mmckegg: i think i needed browser restart
21:03:49  <jjjohnny>yyyyYES
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21:04:32  <jjjohnny>must restart whenever a device is plugged in or out
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21:12:08  <mmckegg>oh yeah, forgot about that.
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21:38:35  <Tmo__>Is this project open source?
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21:42:50  <domanic>Tmo__, which project?
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21:46:23  <Tmo__>the base stackvm technology
21:46:33  <Tmo__>I think I found the github repo
21:53:41  <substack>it's dead, but the code is up there
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21:57:20  <Tmo__>what happened to it? Seems like cool technology
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22:11:01  <jjjohnny>Tmo__: it all got modularized
22:12:01  <Tmo__>jjjohnny: what do you mean by that exactly?
22:22:06  <jjjohnny>Tmo__: https://www.npmjs.com/~substack
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23:21:29  <domanic>substack, it would be cool to have a thing that could intelligently aim a solar panel. Knowing how much battery drain would be expended to reaim
23:21:42  <domanic>and how much improvement could be gained be aiming
23:22:25  <domanic>especially on something that tends to move, but may stay facing one direction for a while
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23:23:11  <domanic>it could build a model of the way it's currently moving, and pick an good aiming direction, and then not reaim for a while.
23:25:27  <jjjohnny>bobblehead
23:31:26  <domanic>ha, just realized that a markov chain is a Finite State Machine but with the transitions between states have probabilities
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23:45:55  <substack>domanic: yes!
23:51:13  <domanic>substack, but I wonder what a stack machine version of a markov chain would look like?