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00:00:48  <mafintosh>mikolalysenko: i guess the layout is a little bit different since all even numbers in flat-tree donates the bottom blocks?
00:01:10  <mikolalysenko>there are different ways to do it
00:01:20  <mikolalysenko>those modules are a bit too complicated I think
00:01:31  <mikolalysenko>the easiest case is if n is a power of 2, then you can do lots of simpler things
00:01:38  <mikolalysenko>like use ctz to get height a node for example
00:01:55  <mikolalysenko>and once you have height you can get whatever
00:03:20  <mafintosh>mikolalysenko: my use case is to use this to build a merkle-tree where all the bottom nodes also hashes the roots of the previous "full" trees
00:03:46  <mafintosh>but thats gonna be a different module
00:05:28  <mikolalysenko>ctz is the secret to fast parent calculations
00:05:37  <mikolalysenko>but only for filled trees
00:05:47  <mikolalysenko>inorder-tree-layout works for trees of any size
00:06:10  <mikolalysenko>basically height of node = trailing zeros for a filled tree
00:06:21  <mikolalysenko>I had another algorithm I worked out on paper, but it was too messy
00:06:34  <mikolalysenko>I ended up using a binary search in inorder-tree-traversal since it was simpler to get right
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02:11:19  <jjjohnny>this may be the funkiest algorithm yet http://studio.substack.net/stretch-beat_THEORYMIX_con_reverso
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02:22:57  <substack>jjjohnny: really good
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03:39:11  <jjjohnny>jfhbrook: https://www.npmjs.com/package/argb
03:41:10  <substack>jjjohnny: might want to make that read from opts instead of process.argv
03:41:27  <jjjohnny>hm?
03:41:27  <substack>in a transform you get: module.exports = function (file, opts) {}
03:41:50  <substack>and opts is populated with the transform options, which use subarg syntax: browserify -t [ argb --cool --beans=333 ]
03:42:13  <substack>that way you can set options that mean something to browserify itself without causing conflicts
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03:45:39  <jfhbrook>yeah, the subargs would be dope
03:46:34  <jfhbrook>excellent idea though, goes well with that envify transform for sure
03:48:49  <jjjohnny>hmmm
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04:03:43  <jjjohnny>substack: i wish studio saved diffs
04:04:04  <substack>can always write a script to compute them
04:04:22  <substack>the history is easy to get http://studio.substack.net/-/history/stretch-beat
04:04:35  <jjjohnny>i mean for every edit
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04:07:26  <jjjohnny>cuz sometimes the journey to the final composition is also funky
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18:49:57  <kumavis>was asking about debian philosophy in #debian
18:50:13  <kumavis>> feel free to *read* stuff on the web, but in here is no place to explain this stuff
18:50:47  <kumavis>perhaps, but not very welcoming
18:51:13  <ogd>lol
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19:01:47  <substack>in my experience, not being able to succinctly explain something is a good indicator of a confused idea
19:02:00  <substack>or at least, a confused understanding
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21:15:37  <joepie91>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150616/11252831361/huge-loss-free-speech-europe-human-rights-court-says-sites-liable-user-comments.shtml
21:15:42  <joepie91>"Today, the ruling came out and it's a disaster. In short, websites can be declared liable for things people post in comments. As we explained last year, the details of the case were absolutely crazy. The court had found that even if a website took down comments after people complained, it could still be held liable because it should have anticipated bad comments in the first place."
21:15:43  <joepie91>this is bad
21:16:40  <substack>all the more reason to build websites that nobody runs and nobody can possibly own
21:40:57  <domanic>this seems way to absurd to be actionable
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21:48:18  <domanic>so, basically this means censorship like they for say, weibo, except at a corporate level?
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