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00:20:00  <ogd>jfhbrook: nope :D just the server logs
00:20:34  <jfhbrook>oh, and no access logs cause bare port huh
01:42:48  <jfhbrook>oh wait I see access logs in here, neato
01:43:46  <jfhbrook>doesn't look like too much traffic, that's good
01:43:56  <jfhbrook>like the machine isn't about to explode I mean
01:47:09  <jfhbrook>someone's using the shit out of tldjs
01:47:14  <jfhbrook>what is that anyway
01:48:03  <jfhbrook>oh *I* see, directions https://www.npmjs.com/package/tldjs
04:57:43  <ogd>substack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DyYLLf3m8
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10:11:37  <tixz>What do others use for more sophisticated logging than console.log? Ie. in large "distributed" production systems
10:12:21  <tixz>I'm thinking at the process level. I think I've got my grip on rotation, collection and analysis
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16:33:21  <ogd>tixz: pretty sure thats a whole category of research :) i dont have much experience there myself though
16:35:26  <tixz>Ogd: yeah, scouted though the papers you shared with me but didn't find much general knowledge. Maybe my question is too naive :b
16:36:13  <jfhbrook>tixz: what do you have in mind exactly?
16:36:17  <ogd>tixz: oh i think thats a different kind of 'log'
16:36:36  <ogd>tixz: though replicated append only log infrastructure is probably applicable to event logging
16:36:52  <jfhbrook>tixz: in terms of "log4j for node" bunyan does the job
16:37:20  <jfhbrook>tixz: beyond that, usually it's stdout -> systemd or stdout -> syslog or something like that
16:38:23  <tixz>ogd: yeah I know, but I thought there might have been something in there given how wide the variety of topics were :)
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16:40:02  <tixz>jfhbrook: I think that's the kind of stuff I was looking for. It was more on the "developer ergonomics" side of things I was looking for something. Stdout is preferred for my use case :) thanks
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17:28:23  <jfhbrook>tixz: keep in mind that if you do stdout -> journald -> syslog that journald clips messages at 2048 chars when writing to the syslog socket
17:29:03  <jfhbrook>tixz: so that'll break your newline-separated json error logs---so you might want to work out something a little different from that (or just deal)
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20:20:18  <tixz>jfhbrook: thanks! I currently have my system deployed on AWS and just use their cloudwatch log agent, but I'd like to explore vendor independent systems in the future, so the heads up is much appreciated! :)
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20:32:07  <jjjohnny_>domanic: yodel
20:32:18  <jjjohnny_>where can i see you today?
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20:37:18  <substack_>jjjohnny_: we're all at /tmp
20:37:19  <domanic>jjjohnny_, we (me, substack, pfraze) are at newhearth
20:37:51  <substack_>jjjohnny_: if you plan to drive over, can you bring my old light blue bicycle for pfraze to get around?
20:38:14  <jjjohnny_>ya
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21:26:18  <domanic>jjjohnny_, whats up are you coming?
21:26:37  <jjjohnny_>substack_, domanic yall have any interest in tripping to hackistan today or the night?
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21:47:31  <domanic>jjjohnny_, yeah we might we are just figuring out our options
21:53:07  <wao>oh
21:53:16  <wao>substack: I think you need listen this http://fffff.at/rip/ Its from CCC 2015
21:53:20  <wao>er, 2005
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22:36:16  <substack>jjjohnny_: pfraze is headed over to fetch my old bike
22:49:12  <jjjohnny_>ok
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