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15:44:09  <juliangruber>https://twitter.com/dat_project/status/834059771535826944
15:44:20  <juliangruber> Today we’re announcing the release of Dat Desktop, a peer to peer data sharing app built for humans. Try it out: https://datproject.org/
15:45:21  <jfhbrook>hehe
15:45:24  <jfhbrook>dat desktop tho
15:45:35  <jfhbrook>for real, congrats
15:45:36  <pfrazee>doe
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15:56:30  <rom1504>oh so https://github.com/mafintosh/dat-npm
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20:13:37  <yangwao>wow
20:13:57  <yangwao>substack: great work man https://www.npmjs.com/package/hyperlog-capability
20:13:57  <yangwao>:D
20:14:09  <yangwao>I was like, wait, I need SomeCrypto for that hyperlog..
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22:03:30  <someelse>was reading through https://github.com/nodejs/NG/issues/29
22:03:37  <someelse>anyone familiar with mbostock's crom
22:05:33  <jfhbrook>idk crom
22:05:50  <jfhbrook>wrt decentralized npm, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think there are political reasons here as much as there are technical ones to try something like this out
22:06:13  <jfhbrook>and, uh, playing that particular political game is of no interest to me! So I tend to blow off stuff like that, even if it's probably neat on a technical level
22:08:34  <jfhbrook>I was more interested when npm was actually falling apart, like when it was straight unreliable
22:08:37  <jfhbrook>now it's mostly reliable
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22:29:23  * noffleis hacking on http://github.com/noffle/peer-npm
22:41:31  <substack>i don't understand why people want to push p2p tools through a centralized committee process
22:42:01  <substack>you can just build your thing and maybe other people will use it too
22:46:34  <jfhbrook>network effects?
22:46:49  <jfhbrook>Hard to get from just your friends to critical mass without some kind of approval from the establishment
22:48:26  <someelse>I saw noffle's work, it looks very cool
22:48:53  <someelse>I was thinking about a way to have a .js file that could bootstrap all its dependencies regardless of type
22:48:56  <someelse>.css
22:48:58  <someelse>.js
22:49:03  <someelse>.<whatever>
22:49:08  <someelse>regardless of source as well
22:49:11  <someelse>so
22:49:20  <someelse>stored in dat, ipfs, npm wherever
22:49:24  <someelse>just run
22:49:33  <someelse>node <bootstrapped-file>.js
22:50:09  <someelse>maybe that's a silly idea, it's not for anything in particular
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22:57:45  <someelse>Thinking about things like http://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2015004_cuneiform.pdf
22:58:16  <someelse>For example, a json file that includes a ipld links to .js, .html, .css, .<whateve>
22:59:00  <someelse>super small storage of a program, just need to use node stdlib to fetch deps and bootstrap self
22:59:01  <someelse>idk
22:59:21  <someelse>ipld
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23:04:19  <someelse>just go prototype it, right?
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