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16:36:08  <noffle>any LA folks here, or can recommend any good hack spots or hacker spaces? I'm near culver city right now
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19:51:11  <ogd>noffle: good coffee at cognoscenti
19:54:02  <noffle>Thanks ogd!
19:54:55  <ogd>noffle: also really good free museum http://theunderground-museum.org/
19:55:06  <ogd>noffle: small but cool
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19:56:29  <ogd>noffle: paper or plastik is another good hacking cafe in the region
19:58:29  <jfhbrook>I had to cut back on coffee lately
19:58:33  <jfhbrook>it has made me very sad
19:58:36  <jfhbrook>and very tired
19:59:11  <noffle>Everything is so aggressively distant from each other!
19:59:36  <jfhbrook>you can thank the car for that! >:O
20:00:32  <noffle>30 minute walk to morning coffee, cars on all sides
20:00:58  <noffle>found a park on openstreetmap, but it was somesort of corp park owned by belkin
20:03:16  <substack>noffle: sometimes those things are concessions to get a building approved
20:03:38  <substack>private parks open to the public. many cities have these things
20:04:11  <substack>there is one in oakland on webster I think. you can see it from npm's office
20:04:28  <substack>on top of the kaiser convention center
20:04:51  <noffle>curious!
20:06:12  <substack>I had a nice time hacking at the park at la brea. there are outlets on some of the lamp posts
20:06:26  <substack>a matte screen helps
20:06:55  <substack>there are some hackerspaces in LA on the hackerspace wiki but I haven't been to any
20:11:02  <noffle>substack: Yes, there are quite a few! https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Los_Angeles
20:11:33  <noffle>Crash Space is closest to where I am
20:11:56  <substack>hard to know which hackerspaces are the kind where strangers drop in all the time
20:12:08  <substack>and which are more members-only except for public events
20:22:26  <noffle>Aw, Crash Space looks very mediated: attendance only on specified public events.
21:10:50  <noffle>substack: https://github.com/substack/invoicer/pull/19
21:11:32  <jfhbrook>gramercy park is a private park that's only open for regular schmos like once a year
21:11:38  <jfhbrook>I refuse to check it out, out of principle
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23:48:45  <noffle>bret: thanks for making https://github.com/bcomnes/changelog-init -- just what I needed!
23:52:55  <jfhbrook>huh
23:53:02  <jfhbrook>I've actually looked for a changelog convention in the past
23:53:31  <jfhbrook>part of me thinks this is a fool's errand, after all conventions around semver have obvious (to me) value and yet many communities won't even consider it
23:53:39  <jfhbrook>otoh, someone's trying and that says something
23:57:44  <substack>I don't like formats with too many fields. people just leave them blank or they collect useless information
23:58:14  <jfhbrook>wrt the changelog format?
23:58:22  <jfhbrook>I haven't scrutinized the suggested format yet
23:58:26  <jfhbrook>I'm like trying to pay bills
23:58:50  <substack>yes I don't like http://keepachangelog.com/en/0.3.0/
23:59:08  <substack>the added/changed/fixed thing
23:59:21  <substack>I would rather have blocks of free-form text in between version headers